PLO H/L Strategy/Hand Discussion - Page 2

Alright guys I got two more hands I'm going to post: one high low and one high

In the process of putting them up now

Ok the first hand is a H/L hand. Villain in this hand is a good thinking live reg that is definitely capable of bluffing in good spots but generally just always shows up with the nuts.

I have

$15 button straddle, Villain raises to $50 UTG+1, I flat MP, CO flats

Flop , Villain bets $115, I flat, CO folds

Turn , Villain bets $225, I flat

River

Villain bets $450

Hero?
(I have $700ish behind and Villain has me covered)

I think flop and turn are pretty standard. Pre flop I could see an argument for 3 betting. On the river I'm pretty lost on what to do. His sizing also confused me a lot since he's betting $450 into about $850 when he could just pot and put me all in.

This next hand is a PLO High hand. Villain in this hand is also a good thinking player with more of an online background. We are pretty good friends and always seem to "go after" each other as a result of both of us being very competitive. I don't know if that factors into his play in this hand or not though. The guy in MP is a guy I've never played with before but seems weaker/recreational.

$10 button straddle, I have on CO, Villain raises from UTG to $40, HJ flats, I flat in CO, straddle calls.

Flop

Villain checks, MP bets $100, I call, straddle folds, raiser calls

Turn

Raiser checks, MP bets $100, I call, Villain goes all in for $600ish. MP tanks for awhile and folds. Hero?


Villain and I have about the same amount to start the hand. I really was kind of lost in this hand on the turn. I felt the flop was pretty standard. I considered jamming turn but wanted to keep in worse hands. What do you guys think?

Comments for all streets are appreciated, thanks

Hand1: AA2 is basically the nuts and you want just AA to have a decent chance of winning high so I definitely 3bet pre to get it hu. I think I just fold river since you have the Ad diamond blocker and both aces block A23. If he's got a lot of wrap type hands in his range then he's pretty bad.

Hand2: Bleh I just call. Seems like villain has AQ or AA a lot and you don't quite have odds, but it's kind of a weird spot and I don't like folding hands that good in weird spots.

hand 2:
you have to call 500 for a 1750ish pot ?
In vilain' shoes I would be piss off if you think about it more than 3 seconds

You have 25% against a non bluffing range :AA,AQ,88,33,QQ
22% against : AA , AQ
and both MP and you show weakness on the turn , I would be shocked if you have less than 30% here.

On July 02 2013 20:17 waga wrote: hand 2: you have to call 500 for a 1750ish pot ? In vilain' shoes I would be piss off if you think about it more than 3 seconds You have 25% against a non bluffing range :AA,AQ,88,33,QQ 22% against : AA , AQ and both MP and you show weakness on the turn , I would be shocked if you have less than 30% here.

appears to be 500 into 1250ish

so we need 500/1750 = 28.5% , sorry if I wasn't clear.

As think as a general rule of thumb you're gonna be way nittier in hand selection for PLO8 than PLO...esp in multiway pots. you don't want to have 2nd nuts + 2nd nuts and just get scooped by 2 other players.

hand #1 I think is a pretty clear 3bet pre unless you have a good reason not to. You'll be able to take this hand to war on so many boards.

hand #2 I think this is a pretty easy call unless villain in hand is really on the nitty side. You do have a lot of wrap + FD hands dominated and are drawing live even against strong made hands.

In general I think just 3 betting a higher frequency than not in omaha w position is so good...ppl tend to react so poorly vs them