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  ***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 *****  Poker Stars  
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, August 11, 12:11:21 ET 2011 
Table Oriola VII  Real Money  
Seat 5 is the button 
Seat 1: Player1   $45.75 USD   - VPIP: 38, PFR: 21, 3B: 6, AF: 1.2, Hands: 201 
Seat 2: Player2   $100.00 USD   - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 8, AF: 2.0, Hands: 91 
Seat 3: Player3   $99.00 USD   - VPIP: 47, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 9.0, Hands: 17 
Seat 4: Player4   $138.50 USD   - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 1.9, Hands: 619 
Seat 5: Hero   $100.00 USD   - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 3.3, Hands: 385508 
Seat 6: Player6   $105.50 USD   - VPIP: 21, PFR: 17, 3B: 5, AF: 2.7, Hands: 179 
Player6 posts small blind [$0.50 USD]. 
Player1 posts big blind [$1.00 USD]. 
 Holecards Dealt to Hero [    ] 
Player2 folds 
Player3 raises [$2.00 USD] 
Player4 folds 
Hero raises [$8.00 USD] 
Player6 folds 
Player1 raises [$44.75 USD] 
Player3 folds 
Hero ??? 
   
            		
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                            My image was a bit tighter than it is sown here, anyway probably Plr1 wasn't paying attention to that. 
 
His 3b% is 6%, altough his AF is so low that I don't think he has any bluffs in his range, and maybe not even 3betting all hands like AK or 99. 
 
We need 40% eq to break even. Call or fold?  |  
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                            LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 11 2011 13:37. Posts 15163 |    |  |  
                            af stat doesn't take preflop into account at all fyi. I call  |  
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                            johnmagi   Norway. Aug 11 2011 14:10. Posts 1424 |    |  |  
                            SNAAAAAAAAP 
 
You will see AK and small PP alot, but also some higher PP some of the time  |  
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                            Does the fact that he almost snap shoved, infuence your decision? 
 
[ I've seen twice one player (not this one), who cold 4bet super fast pushed (40bb regular) with KK and AA (both times OOP) ] 
 
What's the minimum stength of the hand you would call with ?  |  
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                            bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 11 2011 15:16. Posts 8649 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  August 11 2011 14:09  Try2BePerfect wrote: 
 
What's the minimum stength of the hand you would call with ?  |  
 
  
 
prolly 99/AQ, would consider 88 |  
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                            YoMeR   United States. Aug 11 2011 15:38. Posts 12438 |    |  |  
                            trivial snap. only fold if villain is a known nit  |  
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                            Thanks for advice, I clearly made a mistake here and folded. 
 
But still, dou you think that snap shoves thights or looses ( thinner/wider) range of his 4bets? 
 
If you consider that he might be tilitng, then snap push -> random hands in range = widens. 
If you think he is not tilting -> snap shove = super easy decision = premium hands = tighter range. 
 
Would you agree on that? 
 
Do you call or push vs his min/very small cold 4bet, and pfr fold?  |  
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                            LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 11 2011 16:29. Posts 15163 |    |  |  
                            the thing is these midstack gaylords min4bet gay amounts with AA KK  (QQ) a lot instead of shoving...and that's good against a lot of people that will give less action against a shove than a min4bet.  
 
If you discount those say 30-50% you got an easy call, and the ship when you don't really know him will always have some retard spazz combos imo  |  
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                          | 93% Sure!  | Last edit: 11/08/2011 16:30 |  
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 |   |  On  August 11 2011 15:29  LemOn[5thF] wrote: 
the thing is these midstack gaylords min4bet gay amounts with AA KK  (QQ) a lot instead of shoving...and that's good against a lot of people that will give less action against a shove than a min4bet.  
 
If you discount those say 30-50% you got an easy call, and the ship when you don't really know him will always have some retard spazz combos imo  |  
 
  
 
Sadly, have to agree   
 
(sadly, because it again explains why fold is so bad) |  
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                            waga   United Kingdom. Aug 11 2011 17:28. Posts 2375 |    |  |  
                            I always call because , well ... fuck him  7 
(and because it's +EV but mostly because fuck him)  |  
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