15/14 decent steal% TAG small sample

Who likes check bet blank river to rep freecard+busted draws?

BET

But college sucks man, bitches be sick heroes at NL50 and he might call me with 77 99 22 or A high on the river where he folds turn

I guess if he calls draws, but I'd expect him to bet most on flop?

Doesn't he have weak made hand here like all the time that he will call on the river with much higher frequency?

betting is SOOOOO much better than that line i guarantee

Yes, but there are so many draws here that:
a) he calls you with 99/77 here pretty often, cause he might think you're betting a draw,
b) he can have a draw himself and you don't want to let him see the river card for free.

Explain with ev equations plz

Well again, when does a TAG check draws on flop?

Doesn't he call the weak made hands he has here all the time with higher frequency on a blank river when my line is consistent with a busted draw and he would expect me to bet all strong made hands on turn?

I don't see how we are losing any value from 77/99 here if he doesn't call a river bet

also, only retards who think you're also a retard actually fall for your line cuz it's either so transparently a missed draw or so transparently a pot controlled Tx hand

by betting here you'll get value sometime and you remove the possibility of getting gayed on the river somehow if he has AQ or something like that. lastly, if you bet this turn with JT, you can also bet more often with some bluffs yeah?

and asking for an ev equation when the logic is clearly there is kind of lame yo

just believe it =D

hell i'd probably be betting A8+ here since 99+ is most likely to cbet flop

Wtf does your first sentence even mean dude, you say its a transparently a missed draw, which is my point? oO

And again, I think his flop range is very defined by the check call and he will rarely be drawing with more than one overcard.

I agree that balancing a second barrel when he checks is a very valid point, but I don't think balance is necessary at this limit where I rarely play more than 80 hands with one person per session.

Ok I see what you mean and that you will get more value if you expect him to call a river bet when you bet with T9 or 99, or to fold when a draw hits

haha yeah that might sound a bit confusing.

im saying if you're retarded you're betting a missed draw, if you're a reg, you're probably betting a hand like Tx that potcontrolled on the turn for some dumb reason.

fwiw i'm folding pairs worse than a ten if i ever got to the river like that against anyone reggish and not a total retard, which is pretty easy to discover with just a few hands of play.

But If I expect him to fold 99,77 A5 A/K 8X on tuirn but call river would you agree that the ev is at least the same?

well i like betting this turn bcuz overcards on the river might discourage him from calling with 99/8x, and flush cards might kill your action as well.

And we had 22 hands together btw -,-

On February 14 2010 07:49 joLin wrote: well i like betting this turn bcuz overcards on the river might discourage him from calling with 99/8x, and flush cards might kill your action as well.

Now there is a valid reason

yea pretty much theres going to be more river cards that will make him want to fold his weak made hand than there are river cards that will make him want to call with it.