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Handnr: 301292
Submitted by : Pillars

PokerStars Game #12811902212: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/10/24 - 00:55:57 (ET)
Table 'Aitne' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Grommit88 ($561.90 in chips)
Seat 2: MilesTrane ($616 in chips)
Seat 3: Pillars ($756 in chips)
Seat 4: booshiet ($1230.90 in chips)
Seat 6: donovan08 ($1468.95 in chips)
MilesTrane: posts small blind $3
Pillars : posts big blind $6
Mariya_Dobr: sits out

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Pillars AhJc
booshiet: folds
donovan08: raises $12 to $18
Grommit88: folds
MilesTrane: folds
Pillars : calls $12

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $39.00)

   8cJs8d
Pillars : checks
donovan08: bets $24
Pillars : raises $54 to $78
donovan08: calls $54

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $195.00)

   8cJs8d6s
Pillars : bets $140
donovan08: calls $140

River (Pot : $475.00)

   8cJs8d6s6d
Pillars : bets $300
donovan08: calls $300

Showdown
Pillars : shows AhJc (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
donovan08: shows QcQs (two pair, Queens and Eights)
donovan08 collected $1073 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1075 | Rake $2
Board  8cJs8d6s6d
Seat 1: Grommit88 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MilesTrane (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Pillars (big blind) showed AhJc and lost with two pair, Jacks and Eights
Seat 4: booshiet folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: donovan08 showed QcQs and won ($1073) with two pair, Queens and Eights

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Pillars   United States. Oct 23 2007 23:00. Posts 1049

I generally don't play as aggressively in this spot.

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DooMeR   United States. Oct 23 2007 23:02. Posts 8551

right..

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Pillars   United States. Oct 23 2007 23:04. Posts 1049


  On October 23 2007 22:02 DooMeR wrote:
right..


Haha.
Just look at the line in a vacuum.
That probably doesn't help either, though, as you have no idea how aggressively I play usually.
Bah.

My main concern is that I'm overplaying the hand and only getting calls from 8x, QQ-AA, Jx. Maybe that's an indication that my aggression levels in general need to be higher.

 Last edit: 23/10/2007 23:07

capaneo   Canada. Oct 23 2007 23:09. Posts 8465

I think u should do this line with an 8 to get called by a J or an over pair. Doing this with naked J is actually bad specialy on the river cause if he shoves u have to call and he is probably is going to shoved after calling the turn. After the turn his range is J9/JT/QJ/KJ/AJ/QQ/KK/AA/(and lets say a slow played 8 around %50). I think u r behind against that range and if u r not its still REALLY marginal IMO to seeking value there on the river OOP.

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n0rthf4ce    United States. Oct 23 2007 23:14. Posts 8119


  On October 23 2007 22:04 Pillars wrote:
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Haha.
Just look at the line in a vacuum.
That probably doesn't help either, though, as you have no idea how aggressively I play usually.
Bah.

My main concern is that I'm overplaying the hand and only getting calls from 8x, QQ-AA, Jx. Maybe that's an indication that my aggression levels in general need to be higher.

how aggressively u should play the hand is also a function of how bad/aggr/stationy your opponent is.

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Pillars   United States. Oct 23 2007 23:31. Posts 1049


  how aggressively u should play the hand is also a function of how bad/aggr/stationy your opponent is.


Of course, yeah. I'm comfortable adjusting my lines against opponents with clear weaknesses, I'm more interested in how I should be playing this type of hand against an opponent that seems solid, but whom I don't have a good read on yet.

I also agree with capaneo's post, given a reasonably solid opponent. I'm fine with my line if the flop were more draw-heavy, but I guess I should be playing pot control / bluff-catcher on a relatively dry board like this one a high percentage of the time.

 Last edit: 23/10/2007 23:37

 

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