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Handnr: 1087272
Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Hand #195539830352: Holdem No Limit ($10/$20 USD) - 2019/01/09 20:53:54 ET
Table Jutta IV 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: l xFlake l ($2426.06 in chips)
Seat 3: makeboifin ($3489.37 in chips)
Seat 5: Stefan11222 ($2565.19 in chips)
l xFlake l: posts small blind $10
makeboifin: posts big blind $20

Stefan11222: raises $31.60 to $51.60
l xFlake l: folds
makeboifin: calls $31.60

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $113.20)

makeboifin: checks
Stefan11222: checks

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $113.20)

makeboifin: bets $111.45
Stefan11222: raises $394.35 to $505.80
makeboifin: calls $394.35

River (Pot : $1,124.80)

makeboifin: checks
Stefan11222: checks

makeboifin: shows 8hJh (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
Stefan11222: shows Qc9s (a straight, Five to Nine)
Stefan11222 collected $1123.05 from pot

Total pot $1124.80 | Rake $1.75
Board  Js8c6s7d5h
Seat 1: l xFlake l (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: makeboifin (big blind) showed 8hJh and lost with two pair, Jacks and Eights
Seat 5: Stefan11222 (button) showed Qc9s and won ($1123.05) with a straight, Five to Nine

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lebowski   Greece. Sep 10 2019 13:33. Posts 9204


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new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

tapatapaz   Brasil. Sep 10 2019 17:24. Posts 1279

bluff check

And what does self awareness have to do with anything you retard? srsly stfu. - baal 

traxamillion   United States. Sep 11 2019 07:19. Posts 10468

I could come up with some reasons

It has to do with the big pot lead on the turn getting raised more than pot contracting ranges so much

He has plenty of 910 to valuebet while having potentially almost nothing to bluff with if most of his turn bluffs are 9x. (I wonder if you could get a situation where if you locked stefan's turn strat and it was super 910, 9x heavy that you would find a situation where he is betting river with 9x not for value but to balance out 910 and incentivize makeaboiffn to call with 9high straights. Not to straight up just vbet 9x to get called by worse.)

Again, because of Stefan's turn raising range being so strong and with top of that range being balanced by 9x that all gets there on the river and the subsequent strength of the IP river range Makeaboifn will not really need to bluffcatch much at all. He can likely just call his trapped 910 and combodraws with a 9 and it would be enough. Therefore Stefan doesn't really get called by worse than 9x (and he is being trapped by 910 a decent amount).

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 11 2019 14:07. Posts 4945

9T is it very common on the river? There is turn x/r range, turn 3bet range, other turn probe sizes, and river donk betting to consider. all of that chips away at the 9T's in his range. Is very nitty check, i think it reveals that stefan thinks his own range doesn't have any hands to bluff with on river, imo. So i agree with parts of what you said.

supposed to have greenstar not bracelet 

traxamillion   United States. Sep 11 2019 17:04. Posts 10468

Yes very nitty play, not something I would do especially on the fly so I was just spitballing some ideas about the hand.

you are right both of them lose a lot of 910 by the river, I was just coming up with a theory that requires a potentially very wrong assumption about Stefan's range to explain his river check. If he bets most 910 on the flop then yea. Likely it doesn't have much to do with 910 and like you said he simply doesn't have many river bluffs if his turn bluff range is very heavy with 9x.

Makeboiffn probably has a decent amount of his 910o in this line though I think. If he didn't then Steffan would basically be checking back the nuts which wouldn't make sense.


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