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Handnr: 1086103
Submitted by : drone666

PokerStars Zoom Hand #201179396105: Holdem No Limit ($5/$10) - 2019/06/07 22:22:35 ET
Table Adhara 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: PrematureValue ($1125.54 in chips)
Seat 2: DroneHuStl3 ($1191.45 in chips)
PrematureValue: posts small blind $5
DroneHuStl3: posts big blind $10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to DroneHuStl3 8s8d
PrematureValue: raises $13 to $23
DroneHuStl3: raises $82 to $105
PrematureValue: calls $82

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $210.00)

   7dTs3h
DroneHuStl3: bets $87.57
PrematureValue: calls $87.57

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $385.14)

   7dTs3hQd
DroneHuStl3: checks
PrematureValue: checks

River (Pot : $385.14)

   7dTs3hQd4d
DroneHuStl3: bets $107.42
PrematureValue: raises $825.55 to $932.97 and is all-in
DroneHuStl3: calls $825.55

Showdown
PrematureValue: shows 5s6s (a straight, Three to Seven)
DroneHuStl3: shows 8s8d (a pair of Eights)
PrematureValue collected $2249.58 from pot

Summary
Total pot $2251.08 | Rake $1.50
Board  7dTs3hQd4d
Seat 1: PrematureValue (button) (small blind) showed 5s6s and won ($2249.58) with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 2: DroneHuStl3 (big blind) showed 8s8d and lost with a pair of Eights

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fira   United States. Jun 08 2019 22:25. Posts 6345

u dont block any 2p+ and block a lot of missed draws, and are also not close to top of range. so i dont get the call. does it have something to do with how turn went check-check?

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drone666   Brasil. Jun 09 2019 01:50. Posts 1821

just thought he would get by the river with tons of AJ KJ with with a diamond and its not hard to overbluff, althought I think pio tends to bet those KJ and AJ IP in normal circumstances on the turn to bluff the river diamond, when its AJ with gutshot and KJ oesdraw I think it tends to check back more and realise its equity and then bluff raise rivers
my 8 blocker is decent I think ( can see pros and cons )

most importantly is that I am a station as you can see by the 3 hands I posted lol

Dont listen to anything I sayLast edit: 09/06/2019 03:53

YoMeR   United States. Jun 09 2019 22:58. Posts 12435

gross river spot. what hand we calling down to here? seems like 88 is towards the very bottom no? and shouldnt we be mixing in some laydowns with strong hands as well here? otherwise go towards the other end and be calling too often vs a shove

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drone666   Brasil. Jun 10 2019 02:43. Posts 1821

of course im not calling 88+, when it comes to calldowns I should choose the one with better blockers
unlocking AKJ9 is good

Dont listen to anything I say 

lebowski   Greece. Jun 10 2019 19:47. Posts 9205


  On June 09 2019 00:50 drone666 wrote:
just thought he would get by the river with tons of AJ KJ with with a diamond and its not hard to overbluff, althought I think pio tends to bet those KJ and AJ IP in normal circumstances on the turn to bluff the river diamond, when its AJ with gutshot and KJ oesdraw I think it tends to check back more and realise its equity and then bluff raise rivers
my 8 blocker is decent I think ( can see pros and cons )

most importantly is that I am a station as you can see by the 3 hands I posted lol


could you elaborate on the pros of having an 8 blocker here?

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drone666   Brasil. Jun 11 2019 06:47. Posts 1821

I block T8dd 86dd 89dd J8dd A8dd that are flushes that he will have in his range played this way the majority of the time
56 is probably the bottom of his value shoving range and as he is mainly repping flushes, he should not, and I believe he's good enough to not use 89o without a diamond to bluff shove ( which is a part of his air that I block )

its way more likely that his bluffing range is going to be AJ and KJ with a diamond, so with this combo im blocking his value and unblocking his bluffs

Dont listen to anything I say 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 12 2019 14:06. Posts 15163

Oh yeah Sauce talks about unblocking quite a bit
I mean is that really that big a deal

never considered it much sort of just assumed blocking his made hands is a lot more important since there usually is a lot of possible bluff combos
and shit ppl can turn into bluffs

93% Sure!  

lebowski   Greece. Jun 13 2019 13:50. Posts 9205


  On June 11 2019 05:47 drone666 wrote:
I block T8dd 86dd 89dd J8dd A8dd that are flushes that he will have in his range played this way the majority of the time
56 is probably the bottom of his value shoving range and as he is mainly repping flushes, he should not, and I believe he's good enough to not use 89o without a diamond to bluff shove ( which is a part of his air that I block )

its way more likely that his bluffing range is going to be AJ and KJ with a diamond, so with this combo im blocking his value and unblocking his bluffs


I see, ty

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