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Submitted by : Stroggoz

PokerStars Zoom Hand #185602440249: Holdem No Limit ($5/$10) - 2018/04/23 20:20:47 ET
Table Centaurus 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: xeliqq ($1387.20 in chips)
Seat 2: AK_Boikki_47 ($2392.26 in chips)
Seat 3: Stroggos_nz ($1167.23 in chips)
Seat 4: Squa1l ($1015 in chips)
AK_Boikki_47: posts small blind $5
Stroggos_nz: posts big blind $10

Dealt to Stroggos_nz Td8d
Squa1l: folds
xeliqq: raises $12.50 to $22.50
AK_Boikki_47: folds
Stroggos_nz: raises $72.50 to $95
xeliqq: calls $72.50

Flop (Pot : $195.00)

Stroggos_nz: bets $59.99
xeliqq: raises $156.74 to $216.73
Stroggos_nz: calls $156.74

Turn (Pot : $628.46)

Stroggos_nz: bets $160
xeliqq: raises $915.47 to $1075.47 and is all-in
Stroggos_nz: folds
Uncalled bet ($915.47) returned to xeliqq
xeliqq collected $946.96 from pot
xeliqq: doesnt show hand

Total pot $948.46 | Rake $1.50
Board  4d3dJsAc
Seat 1: xeliqq (button) collected ($946.96)
Seat 2: AK_Boikki_47 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Stroggos_nz (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: Squa1l folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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lucky331   . Apr 24 2018 01:43. Posts 1081

what's with the small leads? it works in 500z but not in 5/10?

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 24 2018 01:51. Posts 4110

I dont actually like my lead but with T8dd people wont raise my lead often at all since im repping the strong ace....but i guess it is xeliqq and he snap shoved so wrong person to lead vs i guess.

I was GTO in 2007 -wobbly_auLast edit: 24/04/2018 01:52

Nitewin   United States. Apr 24 2018 03:49. Posts 1002

re-raise flop, jam turn?

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 24 2018 07:17. Posts 14681

This is a spot
where Snowie calls or clicks it back on the flop (0.25 pot - $379) with a 55:45 mix with your hand

It's a damn awesome strategy, annoying to play against
That seems almost useless in practice because if you mess up the mixes you'll be outplaying yourself
That's a reason to play flat more often than you should nitewin

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NL5 Grinder 4LifeLast edit: 24/04/2018 07:28

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 24 2018 07:27. Posts 14681

And you know what Stroggoz
usually I was wrong
But you got the spot right that it's one you want to lead on an ace
Especially if you use the Snowie strat of 3bet mix on the flop as if you do your turn range will be a lot more Ax heavy
with almost every AXdd that can call a jam, most AJ so you not only hit it but have enough hands that stack off (where I was wrong I guess when I wanted to lead turn Ace after calling a raise)

I probably do not, it's too complicated and I want to keep my call range wide (and T8dd and other lower FDs are just annoying to play as 3bet, you jam turn and what, lose to higher card draws or even when you hit? He jams on you and you fodl all that equity? Yuck) and then the lead's not so great

NL5 Grinder 4LifeLast edit: 24/04/2018 07:32

Nitewin   United States. Apr 24 2018 15:04. Posts 1002

Ya I suppose you're right. re-raising flop is overplaying the hand a bit. I only suggested it because it's 4 handed BB v Dealer.

I guess I'm trying to find alternatives to Hero's line. What hands call the raise on the flop, then leads 25% on A turn? Are we balanced here with enough strong holdings?

You're still opening yourself to being bluffed by draws (stronger or weaker).
You're still opening yourself to sets calling and being in a weird spot if flush misses on river.

I don't use a solver but something seems off. Lot of equity being denied.

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Apr 24 2018 15:27. Posts 4110

reraising flop is a fine play

I was GTO in 2007 -wobbly_au 

lebowski   Greece. Apr 24 2018 16:51. Posts 9008

I'd expect turn to check through a big percent of the time so I'd try to hit cheaply
then I'd nit fold vs a bet on the turn and bluff river if I miss
Prob a losing play at these tough games

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 24/04/2018 16:55

Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 25 2018 06:15. Posts 1258

wp hand nothin u can do he obv has it 99%


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