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Submitted by : Joe

PokerStars Zoom Hand #104697148228: Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2) - 2013/09/27 14:52:14 CET [2013/09/27 8:52:14 ET]
Table Diotima 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Joeik ($281.72 in chips)
Seat 2: Steph Bushey ($71.42 in chips)
Seat 3: Messiah55 ($192.32 in chips)
Seat 4: beatabluf ($266.01 in chips)
Seat 5: Shuller_A1t ($490.97 in chips)
Seat 6: Tiltkorv ($391.08 in chips)
Steph Bushey: posts small blind $1
Messiah55: posts big blind $2

Dealt to Joeik KsKd9h5d
beatabluf: folds
Shuller_A1t: raises $4 to $6
Tiltkorv: folds
Joeik: calls $6
Steph Bushey: folds
Messiah55: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $15.00)

Shuller_A1t: bets $8
Joeik: raises $20 to $28
Shuller_A1t: calls $20

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $71.00)

Shuller_A1t: checks
Joeik: bets $52
Shuller_A1t: calls $52

River (Pot : $175.00)

Shuller_A1t: checks
Joeik: bets $140
Shuller_A1t: calls $140

Joeik: shows KsKd9h5d (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
Shuller_A1t: shows TdQsJc9c (three of a kind, Jacks)
Shuller_A1t collected $452.20 from pot

Total pot $455 | Rake $2.80
Board  JsJh5s3s7s
Seat 1: Joeik (button) showed KsKd9h5d and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 2: Steph Bushey (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Messiah55 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: beatabluf folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: Shuller_A1t showed TdQsJc9c and won ($452.20) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 6: Tiltkorv folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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Joe   Czech Republic. Sep 27 2013 09:01. Posts 5987

Can someone explain me his calldown? Or why is my bluff bad?

I think I would have folded everything worse than A-high flush in his place.

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casinocasino   Canada. Sep 27 2013 09:46. Posts 3332

Yeah, bad call by him for sure. He either miss understands your image, or just a really bad/donkreg player to bluff.

TimDawg    United States. Sep 27 2013 09:50. Posts 10186

Seems like you don't really have much 55xx in your range, he blocks a J, and you probably don't play the nut flush this way so I guess his call down makes sense

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Bullshit   Canada. Sep 27 2013 09:53. Posts 737

its not a bad call and theres no such thing as someone misunderstanding your image only yourself

Joe   Czech Republic. Sep 27 2013 09:58. Posts 5987

He is a decent reg.

I definately play nutflush this way though, maybe not always, but it would be my default. Plus I also play J5 this way or some J7xx, J3xx this way.

On the other hand, only bluffs I play this way are like KK, QQ with Ks, Qs and no other spade.

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Joe   Czech Republic. Sep 27 2013 10:00. Posts 5987

Also, isnt he like close to the bottom of his range on the river? I would expect his range to be flushes+ and Jxxx on the river, with maybe a few stubborn AA, not sure about it though. And he has like almost the worst possible Jxxx given his ep open.

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lacman730   United States. Sep 27 2013 10:25. Posts 311

playing the nutflush this way in a vacuum seems too thin to me. i consider calling 140 into 175 with a non-nut flush a hero call on this board so if you have to count on people doing that enough to make up for the times you valuecut yourself against a boat, its probably not going to show a profit in the long run.

as for the actual hand, i think giving up on this turn is probably best. he so often either has the flush or Jxxx with 3 overs to the 5 meaning we have very little turn fold equity and have to follow through on the river making this a very expensive bluff.


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