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Handnr: 1011340
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

***** Hand History for Game 99050110159 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 24, 02:52:20 ET 2013
Table Salli IV Real Money
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 2: haine92 $50.00 USD
Seat 3: JagaForever $53.50 USD
Seat 4: woschi76 $82.89 USD
Seat 5: rbxyeptd $60.50 USD
Seat 6: DoC.LemOn $54.14 USD
DoC.LemOn posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
haine92 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to DoC.LemOn [9h7h ]
JagaForever folds
woschi76 raises [$1.50 USD]
rbxyeptd folds
DoC.LemOn raises [$4.75 USD]
haine92 folds
woschi76 calls [$3.50 USD]

Flop (Pot : $10.25)

   QsTc8d
DoC.LemOn bets [$6.02 USD]
woschi76 calls [$6.02 USD]

Turn (Pot : $22.29)

   QsTc8dQd
DoC.LemOn checks
woschi76 checks

River (Pot : $22.29)

   QsTc8dQd5d
DoC.LemOn checks
woschi76 bets [$17.00 USD]
DoC.LemOn folds
woschi76 wins $17.00 USD
woschi76 wins $21.53 USD from main pot

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. May 24 2013 15:24. Posts 15143

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93% Sure! Last edit: 24/05/2013 15:26

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. May 24 2013 15:26. Posts 15143

H2: Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

***** Hand History for Game 99046695245 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 24, 01:41:21 ET 2013
Table Reiss IV Real Money
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: MirovoeZlo $59.69 USD
Seat 2: alffi $54.74 USD
Seat 3: Lord_Taras $159.92 USD
Seat 4: chirak1982 $18.25 USD
Seat 5: Hero $51.00 USD
Seat 6: illescs23 $51.46 USD
Hero posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
illescs23 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [9c7c ]
MirovoeZlo folds
alffi folds
Lord_Taras raises [$1.50 USD]
chirak1982 folds
Hero raises [$4.75 USD]
illescs23 folds
Lord_Taras calls [$3.50 USD]

Flop (Pot : $10.25)

   4hKs6c
Hero bets [$5.20 USD]
Lord_Taras calls [$5.20 USD]

Turn (Pot : $20.65)

   4hKs6c5h
Hero bets [$13.17 USD]
Lord_Taras calls [$13.17 USD]

River (Pot : $46.99)

   4hKs6c5h7h
Hero checks
Lord_Taras bets [$32.50 USD]
Hero folds
Lord_Taras wins $32.50 USD
Lord_Taras wins $45.11 USD from main pot


H3: Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

***** Hand History for Game 99047432063 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 24, 01:57:30 ET 2013
Table Helene II Real Money
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Hero $50.00 USD
Seat 3: NumberOneDK $21.56 USD
Seat 5: ruskinxx $79.77 USD
Seat 6: 2happy_money $47.71 USD
2happy_money posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$0.50 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [AsAd ]
NumberOneDK folds
ruskinxx raises [$1.50 USD]
2happy_money folds
Hero raises [$4.50 USD]
ruskinxx calls [$3.50 USD]

Flop (Pot : $9.75)

   8s9dQs
Hero bets [$6.00 USD]
ruskinxx calls [$6.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $21.75)

   8s9dQsTc
Hero checks
ruskinxx bets [$13.00 USD]
Hero folds
ruskinxx wins $13.00 USD
ruskinxx wins $21.25 USD from main pot


H4: Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

***** Hand History for Game 99048360306 ***** Poker Stars
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 24, 02:17:18 ET 2013
Table Hypsipyle III Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Hero $51.99 USD
Seat 2: MikeS463 $60.56 USD
Seat 3: insert10 $53.00 USD
Seat 4: white huck $63.50 USD
Seat 5: Rutakatekime $50.00 USD
Seat 6: MirovoeZlo $67.63 USD
Hero posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
MikeS463 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [AdQc ]
insert10 raises [$1.50 USD]
white huck folds
Rutakatekime folds
MirovoeZlo folds
Hero raises [$4.75 USD]
MikeS463 folds
insert10 calls [$3.50 USD]

Flop (Pot : $10.25)

   9d7d7c
Hero bets [$6.02 USD]
insert10 calls [$6.02 USD]

Turn (Pot : $22.29)

   9d7d7c6d
Hero bets [$13.00 USD]
insert10 calls [$13.00 USD]

River (Pot : $48.29)

   9d7d7c6d4h
Hero checks
insert10 checks
Hero shows AdQc
insert10 shows JdJc
insert10 wins $46.36 USD from main pot





Hey guys, getting owned in nonsd today, how would you play the above against largely unknown regulars?

93% Sure!  

jaacsin   Mexico. May 24 2013 15:42. Posts 327

exactly how u did it, but on the AQo im shovin river tho

I knew a man once who said; Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back. 

devon06atX   Canada. May 24 2013 16:05. Posts 5441


  On May 24 2013 14:42 jaacsin wrote:
exactly how u did it, but on the AQo im calling pre and playing the hand standardly


devon06atX   Canada. May 24 2013 16:07. Posts 5441

I take that back. Why are you so 3bet happy today?


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 24 2013 18:06. Posts 8646


  Hey guys, getting owned in nonsd today



why do you care about this? honestly

anyway h1 with no history no reads vs random reggish type i would not 3-bet this from SB. i mean pre is whatever but i've seen several hh's where you 3-bet these SC-type hands from the SB and with no reads or significant stats i think it's pretty bad at these stakes. if this has been your standard for a while it would be interesting to see your lossrate from the SB (not meant to be condescending obv everyone loses from SB) at 50nl+ over a significant sample.

rest of the hand, what else can you do? you know as well as i do that turn is a bad card to barrel...

h2 same thing with the 3bet from SB. on turn i usually give up, it is not a draw-heavy flop, turn is not a scarecard, and you have no reads wrt his floating tendencies. river would be nice to shove if we had an extra 10-15bb's or so in our stack since we have more 8x and flushes in our range than him. might still shove though.

h3 i play the same. maybe e-mail stars support and explain to them that you're particularly sensitive about your non-SD winnings on a day-to-day basis, and that it's difficult when the RNG produces turncards like this.

h4 again dislike this 3b just because he's UTG, if any other position opened i think it's fine. vs most regs utg range there's just more value in flatting here.

Truck-Crash LifeLast edit: 24/05/2013 18:15

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. May 24 2013 18:27. Posts 15143

Yeah I noticed people call quite a bit more IP. I'm used from lower stakes to be profitable as they fold pre and flop a lot but at NL50 peopel call flops more and generally play back more n 3b pots so I have to revert back to proper linear 3b range as I need more sd value. I keep going back to NL16 wherever I have a tough run with my 6ptbb/100 winrate there where I run over people guess I have to play more solid especially from blinds at NL50

I thinkthe AQguy raised too much utg so I treated is Co raise pretty much, twas around 22%

Btw bigred the 97 when I turn the low straight draw, isn't that a reason to bet and fold out pocket pairs, with the draw it doesn't have to work very often at all

93% Sure! Last edit: 24/05/2013 18:38

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. May 24 2013 18:40. Posts 15143


  On May 24 2013 17:06 bigredhoss wrote:
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why do you care about this? honestly

I don't; just lost 2.5BI over 1k hands without showdown that session and felt destroyed. sucks when you suckout on people and still end up losing ;p

93% Sure! Last edit: 24/05/2013 18:44

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 24 2013 18:42. Posts 8646

woops im blind missed you turned a straight with 2nd 97 hand T_T yeah that seems standard then. might even just bet halfpot or something since you give yourself better odds to draw and you'll have bigger stack for more FE on rivers you want to bluff like this. he'll probably peel the 88-TT type hands slightly more to hafpot turnbet but i think it's worth the tradeoff overall.

if utg opened too much the AQ 3bet is probably fine.

also forgot to add not sure about river for AQ hand. i can understand the argument for shoving, i'd probably just give up though too, i think once paired board flops and the turn/river are undercards people will just close eyes and click call a lot. also think it's a lot harder for you to credibly rep 5x here than it is to rep 8x in the 2nd 97 hand.

Truck-Crash LifeLast edit: 24/05/2013 19:00

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. May 24 2013 19:04. Posts 15143


  On May 24 2013 14:42 jaacsin wrote:
exactly how u did it, but on the AQo im shovin river tho



Ye? I'm not betting enough rivers I guess do you think people fold their 77+ which is mostly what they have here?

It's 27 into 48 just needs to work 36% of the time here. . . meh wouldn't count on random regs folding pps enough at NL50

93% Sure! Last edit: 24/05/2013 19:22

Fraser   Canada. May 24 2013 20:31. Posts 4605


  On May 24 2013 18:04 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
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Ye? I'm not betting enough rivers I guess do you think people fold their 77+ which is mostly what they have here?

It's 27 into 48 just needs to work 36% of the time here. . . meh wouldn't count on random regs folding pps enough at NL50

I would mostly just give up turn in that AQ hand.. ya there are some 1 pair hands in his range, but the board range out well for him, he might call river, especially with TT and JJ. There are also stronger hands in his range. Probably just let this one go after the flop.

Also I'd usually flat AQ vs an utg opener?


Pb   Greece. May 24 2013 21:00. Posts 98

hand 1+2 : pure spew, fold pre. I can understand 3betting polarized ip vs someone who has no calling range oop, but when you do get called oop and villain does not play fit or fold, you need to have a strong range to barrel effectively. You will just not flop enough strong pairs/draws 3betting hands like 97s, and u wil be forced to either barrel with too little/0 equity and spew hard when called, or check way too much on the turn.So vs someone who calls oop( which seem to be the majority of players) having a linear 3betting range ip and oop> this polarized nonsense.
Hand 3 : unfortunate runout, im not sure if we should check everything on this turn , call with some hands that we want to continue with, and hope that villain plays river poorly, or just bet a wider range on the turn ( including Aq+,flush draws and Jx).
Hand 4; If you are shoving some air on this river, then this is one of the hands you can consider doing it, however since villain will probably not hero fold an overpair here if u only shove overpairs, i think it is fine to check.


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. May 24 2013 22:36. Posts 8646


  On May 24 2013 19:31 Fraser wrote:
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I would mostly just give up turn in that AQ hand.. ya there are some 1 pair hands in his range, but the board range out well for him, he might call river, especially with TT and JJ. There are also stronger hands in his range. Probably just let this one go after the flop.

Also I'd usually flat AQ vs an utg opener?



yea i think i agree giving up w/AQ on turn actually.

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