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PplusAD   Germany. Aug 23 2008 11:36. Posts 7182 | | |
Yes
This is kinda strange situation but for obvious reasons.
U have to play where ure hourly rate is the highest.
And after some calculations and consideration i really think i can make more money/h on NL50 than on Nl100 ....
1.) i cant 6table NL100 6max on Ipoker -> i get completely lost on my reads then
i can easily 6table NL50 6max since everybody sucks so much and plays very faceup most of the time
2.) My winrate on NL50 is 11.5BB/100 over last 35K hands which allthough this may not be sustainable is >2x my NL100 winrate
My Nl100 6max winrate has been ~ 3.5 BB/100 over the last 15K hands or so ...
-> i only need to achieve a 7BB/100 winrate at NL50 to make more money than i would make on Nl100
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due to the nice speed tables at NL50 and due to 6 tabling i achieve an average of 510 hands / h
on Nl100 i can only play 4 tables... no speed tables and i only achieve an average of 300 hands/ h
Results :
NL 50 6tabling with a nice 10BB/100 winrate + rakeback -> ~ 60$ h (40€) a 7BB/100 winrate + rb would still give me ~45$h (rb % up)
NL100 with a nice 5BB/100 winrate + rakeback ~ 45$h -> (30€) a 3.5BB/100winrate + rb will give me close 40$/h
If i achieve a 7BB/100 NL50 winrate 6tabling i ll make the exact same $$/h than id make on Nl100 5BB/100 4 tabling.
Kinda sucks but well ...
So my plans are to grind out as much money on Nl50 as possible and then move up to NL200 directly (which i will 4 table then)
lets see how it works
GL ALL
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Fox   . Aug 23 2008 11:47. Posts 3110 | | |
If you profit so well at NL50 you should pay for a coach. |
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Breeze   Bulgaria. Aug 23 2008 11:48. Posts 802 | | |
Eventually a big downswing at nl50 will teach you that something like 3.5bb/100 is perfectly fine and those result oriented calculations are bull
Moving down if you don't feel confident at the level is ok though |
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Python817   Canada. Aug 23 2008 11:59. Posts 2733 | | |
maybe you ran good at nl50 for 35k hands and ran normal at nl100 for 15k hands? |
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LazyFisH   Australia. Aug 23 2008 12:00. Posts 686 | | |
You do understand that you will barely if at all improve if you keep playing NL 50 while you will improve if you play NL 100 right? Personally I play 4 tables and I think it's fine for 6max. So if I were you I'd keep grinding out NL 100 4tabling and try to get enough roll to move up to NL 200 and continue to move up etc. No sense moving down when you are a moderate to decent winner at your current stakes. It probably goes without saying that the plan on moving up to NL 200 and skipping NL 100 is retarded. |
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Shabbzoy   United Kingdom. Aug 23 2008 12:14. Posts 841 | | |
you dont have to play where your hourly is highest if you can assume reasonably that theres some kind of learning process going on |
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Logiabs~   Colombia. Aug 23 2008 12:38. Posts 9133 | | |
| | On August 23 2008 10:59 Python817 wrote:
maybe you ran good at nl50 for 35k hands and ran normal at nl100 for 15k hands? |
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Ja hunta   United States. Aug 23 2008 13:07. Posts 1329 | | |
I currently have the same situation. But I opted to play NL100 instead, even though I may make less money NOW, getting better at a higher limit I think is best. Jumping from NL50 to NL200 makes no sense to me, if you can't beat (the way you want to) NL100 then what makes you think NL200 will be easier? Just cut down tables and focus more, and mix some sessions of NL50 if you need the money. |
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Bejamin1   Canada. Aug 23 2008 13:39. Posts 7042 | | |
It doesn't make sense at all actually. If you know you crush 50NL for 11pt/bb steady then there really isn't any reason for you to be going back down. Right now you should consider yourself to be taking a shot at 100NL and working your way up to establishing a steady 7-10pt/bb win-rate at that level. There is no shame in taking some time to do this. Your rake-back is also doubled by playing at 100NL instead of 50NL so keep that in mind. You should always be challenging yourself and looking to play in the biggest game your capable of. Moving down makes no sense if your confident you are already a demi-God at the lower level. Work on becoming one at a higher level if you want to improve obv. |
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Syntax   United States. Aug 23 2008 13:50. Posts 4415 | | |
are you kidding me play nl100 ez
once you get to higher stakes youll be confused as to why you even thought about sticking at a lower stake
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EmKey   Poland. Aug 23 2008 13:56. Posts 643 | | |
Screw some 50$/hr. Play as high as ur BR allows u to and try to improve as much as u can. Dont even think about money. Just play the best poker u can. Dont tilt, make the least amount of mistakes and learn from those which u make. When u reach midstakes 300-500$/hr is standard with some game selection.
Imagine that for whatever reason u slowed down ur moving up proces and wasted 2months of not playing midstakes b/c u wanted to have 50$/hr RIGHT NOW. Even if u would only make 200$/hr and played only 30hrs/month. Thats 9k$ wasted in potential profit. So now gogo and make LEARNING your priority not grinding, so u can be 500$/hr baller faster than those who want that 50$/hr rigth now. |
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NiTE   Croatia. Aug 23 2008 14:19. Posts 366 | | |
You're limiting yourself.
Too early to do such a thing IMO. And I agree that at NL200 you'll most likely feel like Alice in wonderland if you skip NL100. |
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I would just cut down tables and put all sorts of notes on my opponents if i was moving up. |
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rogier   Netherlands. Aug 23 2008 15:12. Posts 1528 | | |
| | On August 23 2008 11:14 Shabbzoy wrote:
you dont have to play where your hourly is highest if you can assume reasonably that theres some kind of learning process going on |
this and this only. you're thinking shortterm while you should think longterm |
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ToT)MidiaN(   United Kingdom. Aug 23 2008 15:40. Posts 5070 | | |
even if your hourly isn't as good at nl100, you should play there anyway to further your development as a player and allow you to move up to 200nl and beyond, where eventually (if you're a winner there), your hourly will certainly be higher than it is at nl50 at the moment.
do you really want to hold yourself back and restrict yourself to nl50 for a long period of time? unless you are in a situation where you desperately need that extra estimated $5/hour, you should aim for long term. |
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