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mikeymoo   Canada. Jul 16 2008 13:22. Posts 988 | | |
Down 3 bi at NL25 over 5k hands.
No graphs or charts or HH's, since I just grabbed Holdem Manager.
QQ vs AA (standard?)
AKs vs TT
Some retarded BvB where he stacked off with a double gutshot vs my set.
Overpairs and sets not paying off.
Of course I'm playing badly too, so I definitely need to ask for some help.
I should only be bluffing people whom I've classified as weak tight, right?
I should be playing relatively tight and only 3 betting premium hands?
Set = pot/pot/shove?
I should be following the beluga theorem?
Never slowplay? (as a rule of thumb)
What types of boards should I cbet?
Should I ever cbet in a 3-way pot?
Almost always raise a donklead on flop?
What do I look for in table selection?
I'm not going to play anymore NL25 until I get some answers for these questions. I have about 16bi left, and I am definitely headed back to NL10 if I dip below 15.
Mike
Thanks to DrawingThin, shaneomac, roflcopter, and F4zi (although I don't like bothering F4zi for stupid questions).
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k2o4   United States. Jul 16 2008 14:38. Posts 4803 | | |
QQ vs AA (standard?) - Depends on the situation - AIPF @ NL25 not normally standard unless you have a read.
AKs vs TT - Ummm, usually not worth shoving AK on NL25 Pre
I should only be bluffing people whom I've classified as weak tight, right? - You should only be bluffing people who you know will fold to your bluff. But deciding to only bluff vs weak tight isn't bad. Again, need a read and usually you don't want to bluff more than the flop vs weak tight, cause if he calls on the flop he must really have something. He's tight remember?
I should be playing relatively tight and only 3 betting premium hands? - Yeah, 18/16/3 is fine. If you only 3 bet premiums you should be ok, but feel free to loosen up on the button when 3 betting.
Set = pot/pot/shove? - only if that's the way you play all of your good hands and bluffs.
I should be following the beluga theorem? - I remember hearing about that at some point but forget what it is
Never slowplay? (as a rule of thumb) - pretty much, though there are times when it's ok. Like when the pot is small and you're HU.
What types of boards should I cbet? - good ones. (har har). 1 high card 2 low card rainbow boards, paired boards (229 is better than QQ2 though, cause 229 is less likely to give them trips but the 9 also is higher than a lot of pocket pairs, while QQ2 is more likely to give trips and if they don't have trips, all their pocket pairs are still playable).
Should I ever cbet in a 3-way pot? - Yes, if it's a good board and your opponents fold a lot.
Almost always raise a donklead on flop? - when in doubt this is a good rule of thumb to follow. But sometimes calling is better - really depends on what you have and what type of player you're vs, and game flow (have you raised the last 3 times he donk'd?)
What do I look for in table selection? - high % seeing flop and big pot size, in that order. Also I prefer full tables and people with full stacks.
GL |
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mikeymoo   Canada. Jul 16 2008 14:39. Posts 988 | | |
He was half stacked when I had QQ iirc. Oops.
Beluga: c/r on flop means a strong hand from villain i think.
Fuck I've been playing all the wrong tables lololol |
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gdlucksir   Canada. Jul 16 2008 14:48. Posts 7 | | |
Maybe your playing too many tables, try less tables and just think about every move you make. You need to have purpose everytime you check, everytime you bet, everytime you fold. When you cbet make sure ur doing it because villian will be folding x% of the which will make your cbet profitable.Most of your questions are very board and very situational. Just always try to put villian on a narrow hand range, since thats pretty much what 6 max is about and try to get max value out of your hand. There will be times where you do want to slow play because u need villian to catch up. There are times where u should be 3 betting junk and cold calling premium hands. And anyone can be bluffed but u have to be able to do it right. Its also good to know bluff math. Like how often this bluff has to work in this situation for it to be profitable. Which is pretty easy to calculate. There are no absolutes in poker so a lot of ur questions cant be answered that well. For table selection find high player % to the flop, look for people with 80/4/1 kinda stats, and awkward stacks too. BTW im new to liquid poker and this is my first post. Hope it helped. Gdluck at the tables. Im currently crushing 25NL on FTP and hopefully moving up soon even tho im running terribly lately. |
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mikeymoo   Canada. Jul 16 2008 15:05. Posts 988 | | |
Whoa thanks. And welcome!
gl to you too.
I'm gonna move down to nl10 sooner than later. I feel it's good for me to start grinding like I used to, and ReSpOnSe says when my br is 600 maybe try again for nl25. I don't mind being patient if re-learning how to grind will help me win more later. It's all about potential, right? |
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gdlucksir   Canada. Jul 16 2008 15:30. Posts 7 | | |
I think the standard BR mangement is move up when u get 30BI at the next level drop back down if you reach 25. If you wanna move up fast do 20BI then drop down once u reach 15. Some ppl do 50BI move up drop down at 40. Which is more secure but i feel that i can beat the stakes so im just doing the 20 BI thing. NL10 is where all the housewives are at so you just need to have good basics and grind so i think u can move up when ur rolls at 500ish because nl10 is really like a joke people are stacking off with the most rediculous shit and then when u get back to 25NL move to 50NL when u have 1500 where players are more decent but still pretty exploitable. |
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rogier   Netherlands. Jul 16 2008 16:04. Posts 1528 | | |
20up/15down is standard for fr micros
30up/20down is standard for 6max micros
the advices gdlucksir gave are super nice and spot on, even tho i disagree with the bluffing @ nl25. just standard abc cuts it perfectly |
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k2o4   United States. Jul 16 2008 16:24. Posts 4803 | | |
| On July 16 2008 13:39 mikeymoo wrote:
He was half stacked when I had QQ iirc. Oops.
Beluga: c/r on flop means a strong hand from villain i think.
Fuck I've been playing all the wrong tables lololol |
I never could figure out what iirc meant..... halfstack then that could be standard if he's been a laggy halfstack. If he's a halfstack nit who never 3bets or 4bets, then I wouldn't be too happy to do it.
Ummm, I wouldn't follow the beluga shit. I have called a lot of CR on the flop that are bluffs. Depends on the player. |
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lazymej   Canada. Jul 17 2008 01:21. Posts 2897 | | |
iirc - if i remember correctly
Anyway, I don't have much to contribute to OP since I'm in a bit of a rush and most of your questions are answered already  |
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