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Target-x17   Canada. Jun 20 2012 21:42. Posts 1027
Happy I switched to mtt's and mttsng's now. After partypoker shipped me 20k I lost all heart to mass table nl50/100 for small winrates and huge swings and was stalling as a poker player. Owe alot to fugikura who got me into them. Started with a pretty sick downswing but heating up now. Heres my last month and a half graph.





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drone666   Brasil. Jun 20 2012 23:22. Posts 1822

which exactly "mttsng's" ?

gj

Dont listen to anything I sayLast edit: 20/06/2012 23:22

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 20 2012 23:56. Posts 13051

Good shit. Keep up the good work.

I want to play again someday, but maybe not focusing on poker after Black Friday has been for the best for me.

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wobbly_au   Australia. Jun 21 2012 01:49. Posts 6540

lol converting from cashgames to mtt and sngs is like going from being an atheist to believing in god.

you either sucked in cash or really ran bad and now use some form of delusion to make you think MTT and sng is better.. Take it from me, go back to cash games.

The Last Laugh. 

Target-x17   Canada. Jun 21 2012 02:18. Posts 1027

Na I disagree its one thing if your already at the top. Cash games above nl50 are all pros or breakeven grinders and its only getting worse I dont see them having a bright future unless your a genious. If anyones STARTING poker now i'd recomend the same thing. Mtt's are where the fish and dead money is at and you gotta follow the fish. Ill keep all my games sharp for the ever changing poker enviroment but for now my hourly is better then most nl200 grinders with alot more potential and mtt's are always gonna be softer mainly because of the variance and the degen feeling of winning alot of money.

f u bw rock 

wobbly_au   Australia. Jun 21 2012 02:27. Posts 6540


  On June 21 2012 01:18 Target-x17 wrote:
Na I disagree its one thing if your already at the top. Cash games above nl50 are all pros or breakeven grinders and its only getting worse I dont see them having a bright future unless your a genious. If anyones STARTING poker now i'd recomend the same thing. Mtt's are where the fish and dead money is at and you gotta follow the fish. Ill keep all my games sharp for the ever changing poker enviroment but for now my hourly is better then most nl200 grinders with alot more potential and mtt's are always gonna be softer mainly because of the variance and the degen feeling of winning alot of money.



delusional delusional delusional.


1. variance is far bigger in mtt than in cash games
2. you need a lifetime to know if you are truely a winner in tournaments
3. you dont need to be a genius to win a any form of poker
4. you have no idea what ur hourly in tournaments are and you wont not for atleast 10 years.
5. "mtts are always gna be softer mainly because of the variance and the degen feeling of winning alot of money." sounds like you.

The Last Laugh.Last edit: 21/06/2012 02:32

Target-x17   Canada. Jun 21 2012 03:05. Posts 1027

Why are you trolling my blog but anyway.

1. Variance is a double edge sword the bigger the variance the more idiots who think they will win or think they will win more in the long wrong making more losing players. I play sick volumn not too worried about this I reach my expected value in months rather then years.
2. If you crush 180 player sng's you crush mtt's up to 100$ their the same thing but harder with more regs.
3. but more smart in cash =]
4. mtt's are not my main game im talking strickly 180 man sit n gos when I say my hourly and obviously I can calcualte pretty close to what my hourly is from a 20k sample of 10-15$ 180 man tournaments with fields of tournament regulars.
5. You dont know me Im the biggest nit and been crushing everything in my short poker career from 50$ into alot more money then any job I would have ever gotten .

What do you have against me seriously or are you just the avenger for cash game players.

The truth is pokers not 2007 anymore and I would recomend it to few people especially not cash games

f u bw rock 

RaiNKhAN    United States. Jun 21 2012 03:27. Posts 4080


  On June 21 2012 01:27 wobbly_au wrote:


delusional delusional delusional.

3. you dont need to be a genius to win a any form of poker




All of the current winning high stakes regs that I know here on LP are very intelligent people and that also includes you so I don't think this is a fair statement. Do you know any high stakes good-winning regs that aren't super smart people?

The biggest Rockets, Sixers, and Grizzlies fan you will ever meet! 

Target-x17   Canada. Jun 21 2012 03:34. Posts 1027

mtt's are way easier because no one knows if their a winner or a loser so they all just play anyway. A retard wins a tournament and just losses it all(and it doesint get raked as hard)

Everyone in cash game knows reletively fast and at high stakes its all winners vs winners with the rarer and rarer fish. Games with all pros will apeal less and less.

I have a base game in 180 sng mtt's with rare losing months if ever because I play 4000 with an roi of over 20 so they are really rare.

Im not an idiot and was not that bad at cash fed me and my family just like this better and see it having way more potential especially for me.

The point im trying to make is that variance is a good thing if you have the mindset and ability to overcome it. When people cry about variance I just think awsome more edge ill just have to play more to reach close to my expected roi but its personal preference. I like this discusion really makin me think though you make some good points and it might be true for most people but not for me.

f u bw rockLast edit: 21/06/2012 03:36

wobbly_au   Australia. Jun 21 2012 03:43. Posts 6540


  On June 21 2012 02:05 Target-x17 wrote:
Why are you trolling my blog but anyway.

1. Variance is a double edge sword the bigger the variance the more idiots who think they will win or think they will win more in the long wrong making more losing players. I play sick volumn not too worried about this I reach my expected value in months rather then years.
2. If you crush 180 player sng's you crush mtt's up to 100$ their the same thing but harder with more regs.
3. but more smart in cash =]
4. mtt's are not my main game im talking strickly 180 man sit n gos when I say my hourly and obviously I can calcualte pretty close to what my hourly is from a 20k sample of 10-15$ 180 man tournaments with fields of tournament regulars.
5. You dont know me Im the biggest nit and been crushing everything in my short poker career from 50$ into alot more money then any job I would have ever gotten .

What do you have against me seriously or are you just the avenger for cash game players.

The truth is pokers not 2007 anymore and I would recomend it to few people especially not cash games



im gna stop responding to you because you are just too much of an idiot.... you know NOTHING about variance. w/e i was not trolling but just trying to share the truth, but what ever.

The Last Laugh. 

wobbly_au   Australia. Jun 21 2012 03:44. Posts 6540


  On June 21 2012 02:27 RaiNKhAN wrote:
Show nested quote +



All of the current winning high stakes regs that I know here on LP are very intelligent people and that also includes you so I don't think this is a fair statement. Do you know any high stakes good-winning regs that aren't super smart people?


Hehe im not sure being smart is same as genius.. i guess its just difference in definition. if thats the case then yes, you need to be intelligent to win in cash games

The Last Laugh. 

Target-x17   Canada. Jun 21 2012 04:12. Posts 1027

No offense wobbly but you dont know anything about me and your doing a thing called making assumptions . I dont really respect people who make assumptions because it means they are often wrong. Ive just given my opinion and you insulted me pretty hard with little knowledge of what you are talking about. That being me. You dont have enough knowledge on me or mtt sng's (they have less variance then highstakes cg's). You do understand variance but so do I. Your what we call a no-it-all

I say I switched from cg to mtt's you dont ask for any variables in my decision and you call me an idiot with limted knowledge on the subject now I know why everyone hates you. Do you even understand how bad you come off as?

f u bw rockLast edit: 21/06/2012 04:20

Twisted    Netherlands. Jun 21 2012 04:55. Posts 10422

MTT =/= 180man SNG's Wobbly... if you're talking about purely MTT with fields of 1500+ I'd say you have somewhat of a point but you can quite accurately tell if you're a winner in big samples of MTT SNG's. Sure there's gonna be a lot of variance (with 100 BI downswings and stuff) but you can play so many of these that as in cash games, variance will work out the winners from the losers anyway in the end.

I'm not sure what you're arguing about still though. I think being an MTT pro is not a very smart idea, but MTT is not SNG. People like Target earn their daily bread from SNG's and hope to score at big MTT's.

On topic: good job dude!


Highcard   Canada. Jun 21 2012 04:57. Posts 5428

Wobbly has seemed to be very real and normal lately, for whatever reason Target is a retard. Target, Wobbly is not trolling you. He actually responded with a pretty good response without being an asshole and you, well, you are have come across as a cunt, but that was evident from previous posts of yours.

SNG/MTT of course are filled with fuckups and terrible incompetent poker regs. You have unfortunately proven to be no different and I don't care about being an asshole to an asshole.

everything mentioned above is irrelevant.

Good luck with the SNG/MTT life and hope you crush.

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

Target-x17   Canada. Jun 21 2012 05:32. Posts 1027


  On June 21 2012 03:57 Highcard wrote:
Wobbly has seemed to be very real and normal lately, for whatever reason Target is a retard. Target, Wobbly is not trolling you. He actually responded with a pretty good response without being an asshole and you, well, you are have come across as a cunt, but that was evident from previous posts of yours.

SNG/MTT of course are filled with fuckups and terrible incompetent poker regs. You have unfortunately proven to be no different and I don't care about being an asshole to an asshole.

everything mentioned above is irrelevant.

Good luck with the SNG/MTT life and hope you crush.



Do you have reading comprension skills? This was his first post

lol converting from cashgames to mtt and sngs is like going from being an atheist to believing in god.

you either sucked in cash or really ran bad and now use some form of delusion to make you think MTT and sng is better.. Take it from me, go back to cash games.



His second post started with delusion, delusion, delusion

Just lol for every jab I made at wobbly he came at me with 5 haymakers

f u bw rock 

Target-x17   Canada. Jun 21 2012 05:38. Posts 1027

I thought I was having a nice discussion but he kept calling me a retard for not understanding variance which is way untrue and off topic. I think he was just in a bad mood but thats my opinion. I dont think I was a cunt till my last post or so but sorry if I came off like that its late

f u bw rock 

Highcard   Canada. Jun 21 2012 05:39. Posts 5428

lol a haymaker is only worth it's value in relation to the size of the brain it is hitting

edit
you just reposted saying you may have come off as a cunt, fair enough

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the timeLast edit: 21/06/2012 05:40

Highcard   Canada. Jun 21 2012 05:47. Posts 5428

The point is, I have witnessed the fields of MTT just like nearly all of use (talking $200+++) and even watched a couple of vids, read a sng/mtt math break book. The point of the matter is, I agree you can say all you want SNG/mtt is where all the weak/shit/fish are, but that was true since forever. Even in 2007 there was fuckwads saying sng/mtt was so soft compared to cashgame and to move to tournies. Your revelation is irrelevant in the world of poker but it so indicative that poker will always be a profitable and beatable game.

Cash games will not get worse (quote stolen from locoo) and winning will always be possible. If you can't beat 50nl or 100nl because you think it is riddle with pros/rakeback grinders then your mind is so fucking tiny in poker IQ that you should quit poker now. That is not a troll, go back to sc/sc2 or w/e

I guess my point is, just make fucking money from poker and enjoy yourself but don't talk like you know anything, because your just repeating history

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

Target-x17   Canada. Jun 21 2012 06:05. Posts 1027


  On June 21 2012 04:47 Highcard wrote:
The point is, I have witnessed the fields of MTT just like nearly all of use (talking $200+++) and even watched a couple of vids, read a sng/mtt math break book. The point of the matter is, I agree you can say all you want SNG/mtt is where all the weak/shit/fish are, but that was true since forever. Even in 2007 there was fuckwads saying sng/mtt was so soft compared to cashgame and to move to tournies. Your revelation is irrelevant in the world of poker but it so indicative that poker will always be a profitable and beatable game.

Cash games will not get worse (quote stolen from locoo) and winning will always be possible. If you can't beat 50nl or 100nl because you think it is riddle with pros/rakeback grinders then your mind is so fucking tiny in poker IQ that you should quit poker now. That is not a troll, go back to sc/sc2 or w/e

I guess my point is, just make fucking money from poker and enjoy yourself but don't talk like you know anything, because your just repeating history



Your assuming I havent made 6figures from cash games(like wobbly is) I gave him some slack and was pretty mannered given the situation (he has no idea what a mttsng is) but a scrub like you had no right to tell me I dont know anything. All im simply stating is my hourly is bigger then when I was a cash game grinder and got bullied on the internet gtfo.

f u bw rock 

Highcard   Canada. Jun 21 2012 07:29. Posts 5428

How in gods fucking name do you pretend that you made 6 figures playing 50nl/100nl. I don't even care what you say of me, it is irrelevant I only came to this noob thread because wobbly was actually spreading quality without asshole-ism which was ^^ for him. No one bullied you here at all, this is all on yourself and from all your posts. You luckboxed a pittance over what I expect took months and spew garbage nonsense about poker.

I guess that is the point of these blogs, anyways as I said before good luck crushing the fields

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

 
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