limit strategy obv

OK enough retarded entries, i want to discuss a limit concept i recently learned:


Dealt to Floofy [Th 9d]
Uncthemonk: folds
Snowpimp911 joins the table at seat #6
TeeJayOrTJ: folds
unjust: folds
Floofy: raises $10 to $20
BrokenATM: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [Ts 9s 9c]
Floofy: bets $10
BrokenATM: calls $10
*** TURN *** [Ts 9s 9c]
Floofy: checks
BrokenATM: bets $20
Floofy: raises $20 to $40
BrokenATM: calls $20
*** RIVER *** [Ts 9s 9c 6s]
Floofy: bets $20
BrokenATM: calls $20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Floofy: shows [Th 9d] (a full house, Nines full of Tens)
BrokenATM: mucks hand
Floofy collected $178 from pot


The question: was my opponement right to call down after my turn raise? is he a mad donkey?

If you show this on 2+2, most people will answer "lol ez fold". But my opponement knows me and he knows i am able to sometimes randomly decide im check raising this turn (mainly with straight draws and overcards, 22-44 is also a possiblity). He might even wrongly think im an overaggro donkey who can do this with any two.

Truth is vilian is a regular and seems to be a winner.

Now the question is: what should he have done if he had a doubt about me? (vs lag tards its generally ez call down, vs fishy nits its easy fold)

What i recently realized is that in this spot, the best is to fold it about 30% of the time, and randomlly call down 70%. this way, bluffing cannot be +EV for vilian because he is risking 60$ to win 120$. Making an habit of either folding or calling down in this spot is exploitable and shouldnt be done. (note that this hand isnt the best example because there are many draws. in a similar situation but a very dry board, i would fold it even more in his spot. Again keep in mind good limit players are very agressive and make moves all the time, folding every times is bad)

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[11:36:43 AM] - Floofy : yo looser
[11:37:10 AM] Caleb: you bitch
[11:37:18 AM] - Floofy : hey its easter
[11:37:20 AM] - Floofy : u want a gift
[11:37:44 AM] Caleb: sure but easter is 2morrow
[11:37:52 AM] - Floofy : oh fuck
[11:38:01 AM] Caleb: lol
[11:38:28 AM] - Floofy : anyways the offer was
[11:38:44 AM] Caleb: a hot porn star that i can fuck
[11:39:03 AM] - Floofy : if u can win HU vs me at gladiator 3 in a
row, i will stake u 50$ for the 1.20 45 man sngs (i get
70% profit, up to 120$ profit)
[11:39:43 AM] Caleb: this is calebs dad and no that is gay wat about
the hit porn star
[11:39:54 AM] Caleb: hot*
[11:40:19 AM] - Floofy : dad? wtf learn to make kids that doesnt
loose everything at poker
[11:40:23 AM] - Floofy : =]
[11:40:47 AM] Caleb: hey that is my kid

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Ok so roald staked me a few times and he made about 600$ profits off me. It was low stakes sngs where im very unlikely to loose.

he staked me for the third time, for 1000$ at 25$ sngs. i specified when making the deal i insisted i wasnt interested unless i could "end the stake" whenever i wanted and he agreed

[10:36:56 PM] - Floofy : [01:01:05 PM] - Floofy : i can end it
when i want, you too unless i
already won 1K
[01:01:20 PM] - Floofy : i mean 2K
[01:01:39 PM] ?????: how about it cant end early if
you're losing
[01:01:45 PM] ?????: mhm
[01:01:47 PM] ?????: nm
[01:01:52 PM] ?????: sounded better in my head
[01:02:33 PM] ?????: how long is the stake for?
[01:02:49 PM] - Floofy : yea thats a decent condition
[01:02:54 PM] - Floofy : 10 days
[01:03:14 PM] - Floofy : well i wont be gay if im
loosing, aka the
point isnt to play 10 sngs and end it if i
lost lol

i actually had played about 150 sngs and ran sickly bad and lost him 270$.

today i won a freeroll and have no interest anymore in continuing the stake so ended the deal

now hes very mad

did i do something wrong?

in my view he still made 350$ off me (which coulda been more if i didnt run like shit) and i didnt break any rule

4 votes

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SO i just just realized i had 200 bux left from my affiliate job on party

obv gogo 5/10 limit on party.

got it to 800 in 3 hours. go me

objective tonight: 3K!. + work up roald's stake a few hundreds -_-

oh and heres the promised stupid pic

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So roald staked me 300 bux for the 6.50 turbo sngs.

its been 6 days now. im at 1036$. he allowed me to gradually move up, im playing the 25s now.

Im planning to try and get a stake for the 60s once this is over (in 4 days). Roald might do it but he lacks br. if anyone is interested shoot me a pm (wiling to do decent deals, such as higher %, or possibility to move down to 15s after a set ammount of loss).

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Ok im kinda broke @ online and im not suposed to touch my offline monies. So i decided to give out an offer.....

Also i got bad habit of playing underolled and i feel playing with a stake i will be forced to play strickly 6.50 which is good

You stake me 200-300$. i play 6.50 turbos (9 table them) for around 10 days. Only that. At the end of the 10 days:

I send you back your full 300$. Less if i actually lost money (i will send whatever is left, and this is unlikely). If i won money, i will give you 50% of the profits.

Note that my roi i think is 17% in sngs over 2K sample (and a lot of it is 200-500$ HU match where i didnt do so well) and i definetly crush the competition at the 6.50 level, and im really confident this is +EV for you.

Im also open to other deals.

for anyone who cares, main reason this is hapening is playing fixed limit underolled in tough short handed matches too often

If you are interested, send me a pm
oh and go muck yourself Ket -_-

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Joe dit :
You have any friends that would like to donate to the Relay for Life Cancer walk?
Joe dit :
Guess not, I can give you information on it
- Floofy dit :
hmmm dunno possible
Joe dit :
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/par/content/PAR_1_Relay_For_Life.asp
Fayth - Jo Zou Ay! has joined the chat
Joe dit :
Also, Here is the Official site floof
Joe dit :
http://www.relayforlife.org.nz/
Joe dit :
That can tell you alot about it
Fayth - Jo Zou Ay! dit :
huh?
- Floofy dit :
Joe asked me if i had friends who might be interesting in donating
Joe dit :
http://www.relayforlife.org/relay/
- Floofy dit :
i invited you because i know your very generous
Fayth - Jo Zou Ay! dit :
...
Joe dit :
It would be goin to a good cause sir
Joe dit :
Any donation can make a difference, From the pennies i have received from my nephew, and the $200 donation i received from my father
- Floofy dit :
i will think about it thanks for infos
Joe dit :
No problem, Thaks for the consideration man
Fayth - Jo Zou Ay! dit :
same here bye -.-
Fayth - Jo Zou Ay! has left the chat
Joe dit :
Wow, Someone was in a bad mood
Joe dit :

- Floofy dit :
yea -.-
Joe dit :
-_-



Anyways if you guys are interested the infos are in the chat. Trow tomatoes at fayth!

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