snap with 99

Submitted by : traxamillion

PokerStars Game #38616301156: Tournament #278910566, $5.00+$0.50 USD Holdem No Limit - Level XIV (250/500) - 2010/01/23 16:15:33 ET
Table 278910566 119 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: arifadwa (8350 in chips)
Seat 2: VLT2803 (3000 in chips)
Seat 3: refoyo (5300 in chips)
Seat 4: Mr_Shill_ (4797 in chips)
Seat 5: bostondome (18175 in chips)
Seat 6: Edwin Cremer (8550 in chips)
Seat 7: LATKO28 (6700 in chips)
Seat 8: fkftp (27740 in chips)
Seat 9: traftraf (6265 in chips)
arifadwa: posts the ante 60
VLT2803: posts the ante 60
refoyo: posts the ante 60
Mr_Shill_: posts the ante 60
bostondome: posts the ante 60
Edwin Cremer: posts the ante 60
LATKO28: posts the ante 60
fkftp: posts the ante 60
traftraf: posts the ante 60
fkftp: posts small blind 250
traftraf: posts big blind 500

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to fkftp
arifadwa: folds
VLT2803: folds
refoyo: folds
Mr_Shill_: raises 4237 to 4737 and is all-in
bostondome: folds
Edwin Cremer: folds
LATKO28: raises 1903 to 6640 and is all-in
fkftp: folds
traftraf: folds
Uncalled bet (1903) returned to LATKO28

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $6,027.00)

   

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $6,027.00)

   

River (Pot : $6,027.00)

   

Showdown
Mr_Shill_: shows (high card King)
LATKO28: shows (high card Ace)
LATKO28 collected 10764 from pot

Summary
Total pot 10764 | Rake 0
Board  
Seat 1: arifadwa folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: VLT2803 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: refoyo folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Mr_Shill_ showed and lost with high card King
Seat 5: bostondome folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Edwin Cremer folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 7: LATKO28 (button) showed and won (10764) with high card Ace
Seat 8: fkftp (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: traftraf (big blind) folded before Flop

I like this fold, wp

either/or

well, i like this fold. pockets 9's in a 3 way pot when u arent very short on chips is not a situation to go for imo. but hey, i'm a fish, so if im wrong here, please correct me and explain to me why

good fold, dont be results oriented

you are showing this because A/K/Q didn't came and you think it's bad coz you could win ?

I posted it because i think it is actually pretty close and I didn't just easily fold. Decent amount of the time i am going to have really good equity when up against 3 overcards like this; 2 overs and an underpair... and sometimes be in pretty bad shape vs another overpair. I only need like 30% to make the call +cEv and sometimes kids shove pretty light/retarded in turbos

i insta call it. you have a big stack and two shorts are moving in. u will be very rare dominated here by bigger pocket pair and it's ev+ to call.

i call without reads

i have been in this spot many times and just like you I was folding. i was also conflicted about what to do with TT here. came to conclusion that JJ is obv snap call, TT is a call and 99 is likely still a call without reads, 88 would be a fold.

I'd call but only because of how many chips u have.

If u had like, 15k, I would fold.

vewwy cwose

if opener is a mctard and you are confident bb is playing appropriate to the situation i think u can call

naw f that i know u can call. under those conditions it's a call.

On January 24 2010 17:14 chris wrote: i have been in this spot many times and just like you I was folding. i was also conflicted about what to do with TT here. came to conclusion that JJ is obv snap call, TT is a call and 99 is likely still a call without reads, 88 would be a fold.

88 would be call without reads, 99 is a call, TT is a snap call

88 without reads is a clear fold, this ain't bb closing with a confirmed retard.

i dont mind calling or folding, either is fine..

call is either +cev or aint ain't no either

i'd prob just fold like a nit.

but it is a 5 dollar tourny....

I don't think its a snap call with 99 like others are saying. There are other factors to consider. Has the play generally been tight?

As chip leader you're not under any pressure to accumulate chips right now and can afford to wait for better spots; hands where you can win without showing down, where you are the aggressor, or where you have a better hand than 99.

in an donkament u are under constant pressure to accumulate chips, u have to win all the chips anyways, why wait?

that's no reason to spew into better hands. but you got a point. fuck it it's a 5 dollar tourny they ez ram-a-jam teh 22 here aww day.

jesus christ! so what its a $5 tourney. you are calling this because you are not risking much of your stack, the initial pusher will have a range that you are ahead of, and the 2nd all in has a range where you a slight favorite.

i mean really, its a 9 bb shove followed by a 13 bb reshove! hero has 4x+ the larger stack, 55 bb or so, he is risking 13bb to win 40 bb pot (once his 13 bb go in) and he is going to typically be 33% or better to win, giving him the odds necessary to make this profitable.

I'd probably fold as well. Just seems like there's a good chance you're facing 3-4 over cards collectively, or worse, a bigger pair. Buuut. I'm a nit. I just like to pick spots where I feel like its more likely I have the best of it, especially when I have a ton of chips, I think its better to wait to pick a better spot. No use doubling someone up. It's also true that you have a ton of chips, and the blinds are super high, so I guess you can assume that their ranges would be much bigger. Still a good fold imo, as they said, don't be results oriented.

loool u cant fold here in any donkaments. it doesnt matter if it is 5$ or 109$ tourney,u destroy the ranges of these two players and u have a big stack. i think that latko28 can easily do the same move with a8+, mr shill can have any siuted connectors,a lot of smaller pp, Ax. u are never dominated here. 99 is an absolutely NUTS

On January 24 2010 15:58 Liquid`Drone wrote: i call without reads

yes obv call, good odds, they got 10bb, you got them both easy covered ,and 99s got enough equity 3way etc.

i cannot tell if half of these posts are levels or not

me either some fucking retards. thanks for the advice tho chris