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Handnr: 918786
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** IPoker
$50.00 USD NL Texas Holdem - Friday, September 02, 05:11:22 ET 2011
Table Argon Real Money
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $50.25 USD - VPIP: 14, PFR: 12, 3B: 7, AF: 3.1, Hands: 2382
Seat 3: Player3 $69.04 USD - VPIP: 14, PFR: 10, 3B: 6, AF: 2.4, Hands: 3735
Seat 5: Player5 $37.00 USD - VPIP: 37, PFR: 18, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 68
Seat 6: Player6 $95.08 USD - VPIP: 29, PFR: 24, 3B: 10, AF: 5.2, Hands: 231
Seat 8: Player8 $55.55 USD - VPIP: 24, PFR: 15, 3B: 13, AF: 1.2, Hands: 79
Seat 10: Hero $54.24 USD - VPIP: 26, PFR: 22, 3B: 8, AF: 2.7, Hands: 10691
Player1 posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].

Dealt to Hero [ X X ]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player8 folds
Hero raises [$1.50 USD]
Player1 raises [$4.75 USD]
Player3 folds
Hero raises [$10.50 USD]
Player1 calls [$7.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $22.75)

Player1 checks

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Sep 02 2011 16:47. Posts 15162

All right this shit comes up more than you'd expect at NL50. I never do it so I got no idea how to react myself :O
Villain 3bets you several times on the table and you fold, and now you make your stand.

4bet is to $12 or 24bb which is standard right?

I assume that all overpairs and fd+overs we are bet calling.

I have a question about
1) AK with or without backdors (is there that significant difference anyway?) do you bet call or even shove? Check behind?
2) 4B bluff IP hands with blockers like AXo KTo QX that can't stand a bet call etc. and have 3-6 outs. Do you cbet and how much?

3) What the fuck are they calling with and should I do this with any hands except AA maybe KK against aggro guys that 4bet too much and will fold to 5b a ton?

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93% Sure! Last edit: 02/09/2011 16:52

edzwoo   United States. Sep 02 2011 17:32. Posts 5911

Probably bet/call with AK and better, bet/fold your stuff with little equity.

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Sep 02 2011 18:05. Posts 5283

bet calling with AK is standard,
cbet pretty much all your hands here, with small sizing like 1/3 pot. (less on dry boards)

people call 4bets with value hands they arn't comfortable 5bet shoving, but get value from 3betting. So hands like KQ, KJs possibly. But yeah apart from that there can be slowplays, like QQ-AA if they think your 4betting too much. And then theres just a lot of junk hands like suited stuff.

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Trolala   Estonia. Sep 02 2011 18:42. Posts 2050

  On September 02 2011 15:47 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
3) What the fuck are they calling with

I think this should be the first question.

FR nl100 I've seen them do that w AK very often. Today I saw AA/KK do it.

If he is x-raising, then
w junk i would BF, w AA/KK I would cbet (depends on fold to cbet too), w hands I don't want to get raised w like TT-QQ I would delay betting.

 Last edit: 02/09/2011 18:45


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