Oslo next to suffer terrorism - Page 2

I'm just getting here and but I haven't read anything about if the terrorists have been identified. Has it been confirmed that it was a muslim group or are people just speculating?

On July 22 2011 13:13 blackjacki2 wrote: I'm just getting here and but I haven't read anything about if the terrorists have been identified. Has it been confirmed that it was a muslim group or are people just speculating?

Just speculations so far (the detonation was just hours ago). But there arent really any other threats to Norweigein government than from islam groups, some say its Al Qaida and other say its extreme islamist groups inside Norway. Norway is involved in NATO being in afghanistan so they have brought a lot of hate on them. But sure it could be some random madman as well i guess.

On July 22 2011 11:56 whamm! wrote: Nords should stop being so passive with taking them in and start going viking law on these cunts.

viking anti-terrorist squad

VATS

Why can't it be a lone domestic terrorist like Timothy Mcveigh? Sound like it could just be someone pissed at government since he targeted a Socialist youth camp. wtf is a Socialist youth camp anyway? Sounds like some kind of indoctrination camp.

while theyre busy, i will be hard at work too, slaying most of these terrorists with my sword

Anyone who wants to work should be let in. If they engage in somewhat serious criminal activity and/or does not get any way of supporting themselves within X months we should kick them out.

Some fugitives could be allowed some slack on the 2nd point, but they should not be able to stay forever and live of the state.

The only way to fix our problems is to make it obvious to everyone that the immigrants help out economy and that assholes gets thrown out. We have enough of our own, don't need to import them.

We don't have Timothy Mcveigh-ish people here yet, but give us a few years of fuck up politicians and we'll have a bunch of them. Remember that Sweden have a proud tradition of "democracy by killing of the fucker if we can't vote him/her away".

but seriously, condolences to those who lost a friend and family member. what happened isnt the world we all wish it can be, lets try to make it better

saw this on tl, some guy was near the blastsome guy was near the blast

On July 22 2011 13:38 kurtisturtle wrote: but seriously, condolences to those who lost a friend and family member. what happened isnt the world we all wish it can be, lets try to make it better saw this on tl, some guy was near the blastsome guy was near the blast

holy shit how big is TL.net, the thread already has 51 pages?? lol

On July 22 2011 11:41 Stygg wrote: yeah just incinerate all these fucking terrorists clooooose the god damn borders already, we have what, 20% immigrants of the entire population, this can lead to no good and will be the demise of our nation(s). do it like finland, they don't let ppl in and as a result they're much better off today in many aspects compared to sweden and norway. call me racist i dont care, close the border now

I agree. I couldn't care less what anyone thinks, especially those who are politically correct. Every single western country has to take some very huge measures to restrict immigration from Northern African and Middle Eastern countries. The sooner people stop calling people like us racists, xenophobes, etc and realize the truth is the day the world becomes a better place.

Jesus christ its a complete slaughter =(

a minimum of 7 dead in the explosion now. But even worse is the maniac that killed children in the summercamp, witness says theres dead bodies everywhere, up to 25-30 kids...

A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami (the Helpers of the Global Jihad), issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at CNA, a research institute that studies terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forces' presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad. "We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations," the group said, apparently referred to a bombing in Sweden in December 2010, according to Mr McCants' translation. "What you see is only the beginning, and there is more to come." The claim could not be confirmed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-coverage

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From the summercamp shooting, i dont know yet if the crimes are connected or not, but i assume it is since i read the fake policeman got to the summercamp telling them it was a messure of securing them because of the bombing, but still just rumors. But so sick =(

there's definitely a connection between the slaughter at the youth camp (it's not a "socialist camp", it's "summercamp for members of the youth division of the labour party. no idea how it could be that mistranslated. ) and the bomb.. and the guy who committed those murders is reported to have been white and fluent in norwegian. right after the bombing I was certain that this was a case of islamic terrorism as a response to norway's engagement in afghanistan/libya. but right now I'm leaning more towards this being a timothy mcweighish event, where one guy placed the bomb and set it to detonate in x minutes, before he himself drove to the youth camp to start slaughtering youth, having accurately predicted that every nearby cop would be instructed to go to oslo so it'd take longer before he could be stopped.

the targetting of labour party (biggest in government) and their youth division is consistent with this. the possibility of this guy randomly choosing to attack the summer camp shortly after the bombing without it being a coordinated is virtually nonexistent, and the likelyhood of muslim terrorists allying with a norwegian crazy labour-party hater is about equally unlikely.

so whatever, this is a tragedy and trying to use this event as some sort of "justification for my hate of muslims" before any proof of islamic terrorists being guilty is fucking disgusting, and if anything, this response is proof of the importance of fighting racism and intolerance. OP, fuck you.

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By nightfall in Norway, a fuller picture began to emerge of apparently coordinated terror attacks. Norwegian news media, citing the police, said a shooting suspect had been arrested and that he was connected to the Oslo explosions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html

Drone, while i agree that dragging in politics right when this is happening and civilians is getting killed could be questionanble still i think its needed to discuss why such things as theese can happen, also i stated myself nothing was certain about whos responsible two times. As a poker player i think we can at least discuss using probability so long as you dont make direct claims, so a big fuck you right back for being so political correct you cant even discuss a huge problem, no matter who was resposible in this particular terror. The Swedish one was at least proved to be islamic-orientated.

Well so far in the Philippines they've been responsible for what? All the bombings in trains, airports and malls for the past 20 years. Most kidnappings of foreigners and locals alike in the southern mindanao (abu sayaff). Yet they are always being addressed as :"muslim brothers" in speeches and given a lot of money by our government to help alleviate the living conditions of some depressed areas, now if they just stopped kidnapping all the engineers being sent to that area and the journalists who try to give their side of the story (and help us understand). Most of them don't pay taxes and still government sucks their tit and bends over to let them fuck them in the ass. When will people ever learn that these people are not out to assimilate and adapt to our way of life but only to take the good shit and not give a fuck if we all drop dead tomorrow.

in ireland (christian vs christian conflict), they've been responsible for something like 0 out of 100 bombings. in spain (territorial conflict, something like 1 out of 100. im making up these latter numbers, but terrorism is not a strictly muslim thing.

suicide bombings are largely a strictly muslim thing (because they are less afraid to die than atheists and less afraid to commit suicide than christians), but terrorism happens because of extreme frustration and complete inability to accomplish goals peacefully, not because of religious conviction or disagreement with the western way of life or hatred of freedom and scantily clad women or whatever.

and I also thought this was done by muslims at first. I have no problems with you immediately thinking it was - it seemed most probable. (and it's still not impossible.) what I have a problem with is the notion that it confirms your belief that muslims must be kicked out of scandinavia, whereas your immediate response in actuality confirms my belief that racism and xenophobia are real problems that must be combatted. in fact, I got the impression that you were trying to capitalize on this tragedy to further your own political agenda, and that is absolutely offensive to me. hence the fuck you.

Nolan you dont like immigration yet you are from a country that is rooted in it and you yourself moved to another country so you could play poker because you couldnt back home? The irony is too much.

On July 22 2011 15:20 EvilSky wrote: Nolan you dont like immigration yet you are from a country that is rooted in it and you yourself moved to another country so you could play poker because you couldnt back home? The irony is too much.

As long as he doesn't blow stuff up or be deliquent with his ISP payments I think we can let Nolan's ironies slide.

On July 22 2011 15:14 Liquid`Drone wrote: in ireland (christian vs christian conflict), they've been responsible for something like 0 out of 100 bombings. in spain (territorial conflict, something like 1 out of 100. im making up these latter numbers, but terrorism is not a strictly muslim thing. suicide bombings are largely a strictly muslim thing (because they are less afraid to die than atheists and less afraid to commit suicide than christians), but terrorism happens because of extreme frustration and complete inability to accomplish goals peacefully, not because of religious conviction or disagreement with the western way of life or hatred of freedom and scantily clad women or whatever. and I also thought this was done by muslims at first. I have no problems with you immediately thinking it was - it seemed most probable. (and it's still not impossible.) what I have a problem with is the notion that it confirms your belief that muslims must be kicked out of scandinavia, whereas your immediate response in actuality confirms my belief that racism and xenophobia are real problems that must be combatted. in fact, I got the impression that you were trying to capitalize on this tragedy to further your own political agenda, and that is absolutely offensive to me. hence the fuck you.

Did you even read what i wrote or do you as all other leftwingers instantly pull out the "you're a racist" card and shove it up my face without further arguments? I did not, and will never write that i think muslims (as a group) should be kicked out of scandinavia. What i mentioned was the total irresponsible way we let immigrants (90% from islam countries like somalia) with criminal/highly religious backgrounds get inside, and then whatever the fuck they do never kick them out. One MAJOR crime should lead to instant deportion, no arguing. Also living on wellfare, never having a single job inside Sweden, and preeching about hating Western society and how infidels should die should lead to deportion im my opinion. Yes you should be allowed free speech, but not on account of our countries well being when just arrived here.

Its CRIMINAL immigrants I dislike, or people who want islam to get major influance in the society. And just to counter the argument that a very small group of criminals make a very big group suffer because if generalisation i will just say, i dont have any perfect answers but i do believe the problem is big enough that something has to be fucking done, and hiding your head in your arse wont be the solution.