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capaneo   Canada. Jun 20 2009 16:14. Posts 8465

Below are some pictuers I took from boston.com around 4-5days ago.
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Today the crackdown has been worse. I have unconfirmed reports of atleast 8 dead.
The militia police in civilian cloth called Basij is walking around and shoots civilan people in the neck.
Here are some pictures of today.
Warning: some are graphic
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This is happening in all the cities in Iran and not only tehran. But because of the crackdown of media and internet its very hard to get news from other cities other than by telephone calls to reletives. But atleast 1 person is shot dead in every major city in Iran in the past week.
This is a picture from the 3rd city in iran
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So whats the mood in Iran today?
The goverment basically is saying that they moved on to the next stage and will kill anyone they can. And people are saying "we are ready to die for a freedom."
The police also started to raid the universities and even people's homes and taking every one into unknown places. Knowing this regime and history it is very possible that they are just shooting them dead and getting rid of the bodies.

Things can get only worse from this point on before it starts geting better. Or it just stays worse.
Either all the current leaders in Iran will die or all the leaders in opposition which are also high ranking people withing the goverment. So there will be blood. lots of it.

I will update this if you guys care.

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Technics   Bulgaria. Jun 20 2009 16:35. Posts 541

looks so brutal
but how is the new president elected? are there just more people that voted for him but are sitting in their homes or it is just sick corrupted vote? obv it is the 2nd but needed to ask, i have no info about iran

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Narious   Canada. Jun 20 2009 16:44. Posts 4800


  On June 20 2009 15:35 Technics wrote:
looks so brutal
but how is the new president elected? are there just more people that voted for him but are sitting in their homes or it is just sick corrupted vote? obv it is the 2nd but needed to ask, i have no info about iran



It looks like it was flat out rigged. The turn out was in excess of 80% and polls, even corrupted as they were, showed it being a very close race. Official results showed the president being relected 2:1.


traxamillion   United States. Jun 20 2009 17:28. Posts 10468

why does this shit even matter when the Ayatollah runs the country?

----> countdown till US "intervenes" or w/e and goes into Iran


Jamie217   Canada. Jun 20 2009 17:43. Posts 4351

this is brutal, idk what else to say


k2o4   United States. Jun 20 2009 17:46. Posts 4803

thanks for the post capaneo. It's getting crazy over there. I have no idea what will happen and very little idea about what's going on. I feel bad for all the people who are suffering and like you said, I think a lot of people are going to die and that's really shitty.

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Highcard   Canada. Jun 20 2009 18:00. Posts 5428

+1 post i still don't know how to react to all of this. It's seems so foreign to me

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vltava   United States. Jun 20 2009 18:26. Posts 1742

I'm interested.

I mainly hope for an end to theocracy but that will not come easily or soon.

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Pindarots   Netherlands. Jun 20 2009 18:34. Posts 802

No words to describe it, really


Baalim   Mexico. Jun 20 2009 18:37. Posts 34312

Inspiring to see a country shedding so much blood for its own freedom, go iran!

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genjix   China. Jun 20 2009 20:22. Posts 2677

one my friends there has been arrested

still at least there might at last be a change and then itd be a great country

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genjix   China. Jun 20 2009 20:24. Posts 2677

also whats cool is that this is 1st uprising in history where im getting up to date news from facebook/twitter and the news is next to useless.

basically these ayatallohs... they will kill everyone before they leave power. they r not the shah- they r religious zealots

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genjix   China. Jun 20 2009 20:29. Posts 2677

also the official line is that ahmadinejad is supported by poor/rural... ive been to small villages. ive never met anyone that likes this idiot. they call him a turkish monkey (hes not persian). hes universally hated since the beginning of time

what i think will happen if anything does is not a revolution but evolution- the ayatalloh being replaced with montazeri who advocates democracy and reelections hopefully

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TheTank   United States. Jun 20 2009 20:38. Posts 830

the "president" had the ballots burned... lol. it's so sad. we shouldn't intervene however. Not our country.

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Kilay   Netherlands. Jun 20 2009 21:09. Posts 1960


  On June 20 2009 17:37 Baal wrote:
Inspiring to see a country shedding so much blood for its own freedom, go iran!



May sound harsh but agree with this. Not supposed to come across harsh though. I hope they get their rightful ways soon and without too many casaulties and everything because this is just too ugly... Weird to see these pictures when Dutch news hardly shows anything and basically just talks about it with correspondents in Iran because they say it's almost impossible to get visual footage.


MayZerG   United Kingdom. Jun 20 2009 22:28. Posts 2123

The UN should intervene... Its sickening with all the people being killed. The civilians cant do it on their own, they need our help.

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sirracksalot   United States. Jun 20 2009 22:42. Posts 2299


  On June 20 2009 21:28 MayZerG wrote:
The UN should intervene... Its sickening with all the people being killed. The civilians cant do it on their own, they need our help.



lolzer's...sure thatll work. im sure the world community would agree there too

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ToTehEastSide   United States. Jun 20 2009 23:48. Posts 1337

props to Obama

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CBS asked Pres. Obama to respond Friday to the warning from Ayatollah Khamenei that further protests would risk severe consequences. I like what Obama said but beyond that I'll just give you the full exchange, provided by the White House:

Q Let's move on to the news of the day. The Ayatollah Khamenei gave his speech today, gave his sermon. He said that the election in Iran was, in fact, legitimate. He said, "The street demonstrations are unacceptable." Do you have a message for those people in the street?

Obama: I absolutely do. First of all, let's understand that this notion that somehow these hundreds of thousands of people who are pouring into the streets in Iran are somehow responding to the West or the United States, that's an old distraction that I think has been trotted out periodically. And that's just not going to fly.

What you're seeing in Iran are hundreds of thousands of people who believe their voices were not heard and who are peacefully protesting and seeking justice. And the world is watching. And we stand behind those who are seeking justice in a peaceful way. Already we've seen violence out there. I've said this throughout the week, I want to repeat it, that we stand with those who would look to peaceful resolution of conflict and we believe that the voices of people have to be heard, that that's a universal value that the American people stand for and this administration stands for. And I'm very concerned, based on some of the tenor and tone of the statements that have been made, that the government of Iran recognize that the world is watching. And how they approach and deal with people who are -- through peaceful means -- trying to be heard will I think send a pretty clear signal to the international community about what Iran is and is not.

But the last point I want to make on this -- this is not an issue of the United States or the West versus Iran; this is an issue of the Iranian people. The fact that they are on the streets, under pretty severe duress, at great risk to themselves, is a sign that there's something in that society that wants to open up. And, you know, we respect Iran's sovereignty and we respect the fact that ultimately the Iranian people have to make these decisions.

But I hope that the world understands that this is not something that has to do with the outside world; this has to do with what's happening in Iran. And I think ultimately the Iranian people will obtain justice.

Q People in this country say you haven't said enough, that you haven't been forceful enough in your support for those people on the street -- to which you say?

Obama: To which I say, the last thing that I want to do is to have the United States be a foil for those forces inside Iran who would love nothing better than to make this an argument about the United States. That's what they do. That's what we're already seeing. We shouldn't be playing into that. There should be no distractions from the fact that the Iranian people are seeking to let their voices be heard.

What we can do is bear witness and say to the world that the incredible demonstrations that we've seen is a testimony to I think what Dr. King called the "arc of the moral universal." It's long but it bends towards justice.

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gotta give credit where credit is due and so far on this issue it is totally due here
Obama's words and my thoughts are in alignment
I just have to admit I am wary tho, and I hope Obama's actions, his administrations actions, and our national government programs actions stay the course with these words and continue in alignment

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and ps..
fuck the UN

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User447   . Jun 21 2009 00:05. Posts 27

I disagree with Obama. If the regime of Ayatollah's turns iran into something like Afghanistan during Taliban(which is their goal and the direction this is going.) There will soon be an Iranian-AlQaida that will come and kill people in the west.
How can you expect that these people who are killing their own citizens would not do the same with people in Israel/US/England/.... Specially since this is what they are saying all the time?
Just standing by and "watching" and doing nothing will not solve any problems. You have to note this goverment is different almost all the high ranking prople in this goverment are wanted by interlope around the world.

I think if they pull out a Tiananmen square the world has to react. Or down in some years they will come after western world just like Taliban and Afghanistan.


ToTehEastSide   United States. Jun 21 2009 00:08. Posts 1337

So you think we should invade Iran too for fear of the future is that it?
User447 you are a perfect example of fear leading you by the nose
The USA does not = police men of the world

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