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UFC FN 59: McGregor vs. Siver

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Minsk   United States. Jan 19 2015 15:09. Posts 1558

Nope, it was just a sad situation for Mr. Denis Siver. I feel bad for him.

 Last edit: 19/01/2015 15:42

Daut    United States. Jan 19 2015 15:45. Posts 8955

i had it 30-27 henderson, but all of the rounds were close. Not a robbery, but was surprised to see Bendo on the losing end of a controversial decision.

Think CM is amazing; hes very jon jones like on the feet, but with better hands and more power. his movement, accuracy and distance management are the best in MMA. still think hes a big dog to aldo: ~30% to win. aldo's speed edge should be the key advantage. I also think that CM is pretty susceptible to leg kicks, as are most without a dangerous wrestling shot. thats not to say CM isnt a good wrestler, seems very strong in the clinch and has good balance, he just hasnt shown a quick shot.

given his accuracy and power i wouldnt be surprised if CM can get a finish after accumulation of damage, but his most likely road to victory is having an edge in later rounds when aldo's super fast twitch muscles are moving a little slower. but i do see aldo winning the early rounds and maybe even outgrappling conor on his way to a 49-46 type decision.

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 19/01/2015 15:47

Baalim   Mexico. Jan 19 2015 23:02. Posts 34250

imo the only reason why Aldo is a favourite is because of the leg kicks, lately we havent seen him throw that many but CM is the perfect candidate, not a wrestler and narrow stance if by some reason leg kicks arent a big factor in the fight i think CM will take it

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rOm   Canada. Jan 21 2015 01:48. Posts 60

It's certainly isn't easy to call who is the one with the overall advantage in this one, but with McGregor having the bigger frame, I think it'll be competitive on the feet, perhaps even favoring the Irish. It comes down to who can push the pace the longest (since both are really good on the feet). It's good for the sport if McGregor takes it, don't think anyone can argue with this...


Daut    United States. Jan 21 2015 02:35. Posts 8955

one of these guys has beaten mendes 2x, edgar, lamas, faber, swanson, is arguably the most complete fighter of all time, and has been top 3 p4p for 5 years with no sign of slowing down. one of them has 0 top 7 wins and is basically untested in an entire portion of MMA. i love conor and think he passes every eye test with flying colors, but aldo being less than -200 is mind blowing to me.

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Nazgul    Netherlands. Jan 21 2015 02:52. Posts 7080


  On January 21 2015 00:48 rOm wrote:
It's certainly isn't easy to call who is the one with the overall advantage in this one, but with McGregor having the bigger frame, I think it'll be competitive on the feet, perhaps even favoring the Irish. It comes down to who can push the pace the longest (since both are really good on the feet). It's good for the sport if McGregor takes it, don't think anyone can argue with this...


I can easily argue that. By my definition the UFC being bigger or mroe popular isn't necessarily an improvement for the sport. The only definition that would fall under is the sport being larger, not better. It's good for more people in the world enjoying MMA, but UFC growth is certainly not directly associated more enjoyable times for current fans. The cards they put on nowadays because they are a bigger sport/company have been absolutely shitty for the sport as a whole. They reach more people with these shitty cards so it is the preferred business model and I can understand why they're doing it. This definition of something being good for the sport just because its larger is something I have always struggled with. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say the enjoyment of MMA was higher when it was smaller with more focused cards by Pride/UFC. Jose Aldo is a fucking animal one of the best (imo the best based on current skill and record) fighters to walk this planet. I really enjoy Conor McGregor as well and it would be great to see him as a champion but don't agree with more eyes=good for the sport.

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmoLast edit: 21/01/2015 03:16

Minsk   United States. Jan 21 2015 09:47. Posts 1558

I agree that the line should be 66/33 Aldo. I don't think Aldo has a great style to counter McGregor. but hes a more complete fighter with more weapons at his disposal and assuming he studies McGregors style, which he will, should be able to find a way.

The way to counter McGregor is to push/pressure into him and expect/avoid the counters, and counter that. It's not the easiest thing. Make him move backwards but don't blindly strike, just faint and avoid the counters.


Minsk   United States. Jan 21 2015 09:54. Posts 1558

That will create a continuity where hes commited to air, and you're not commited and you can do damage. Somoene like Lyoto Machida I feel would be great at exploiting McGregor.

 Last edit: 21/01/2015 09:54

Minsk   United States. Jan 21 2015 09:56. Posts 1558

I think Mendes would also be much better vs McGregor than Aldo.

I would say Mendes vs McGregor is 80/20 | Aldo vs McGregor is 66/33


cariadon   Estonia. Jan 21 2015 10:16. Posts 4019

I wouldn't bet against the Irish. Beastmode is in their DNA. McGregor will give Aldo a different look for sure. He just moves very different from the other typical fighter. His mentality is spot on for the task aswell. Being a seasoned veteran is one thing, being hungry is another. I see a lot of passion and hunger from Conor. Aldo is an established fighter and didn't get to where he is by shady split decisions or any other crap, he is a worthy champion. I'll be staying up late for the fight and rooting for the irishman and for the fight to go past 2 rounds.


Nazgul    Netherlands. Jan 22 2015 06:31. Posts 7080

I'm legitimately curious do you believe shit like that? Don't bet against the Irish?

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

whamm!   Albania. Jan 22 2015 08:41. Posts 11625

allin mcgregoat.


cariadon   Estonia. Jan 22 2015 19:31. Posts 4019


  On January 22 2015 05:31 Nazgul wrote:
I'm legitimately curious do you believe shit like that? Don't bet against the Irish?



I believe in not betting against this particular Irishman. I believe in home team advantage, the love and support of your fans might have a similar effect. However (in)significant it'd be interesting to ask the fighters themselves.


PuertoRican   United States. Jan 22 2015 19:44. Posts 13044


  On January 21 2015 09:16 cariadon wrote:
I wouldn't bet against the Irish.



Rekrul is a newb 

cariadon   Estonia. Jan 22 2015 20:49. Posts 4019

haha, fits like a glove
well done


Baalim   Mexico. Jan 23 2015 00:38. Posts 34250

whats exciting is that if CM beats Aldo then he would pretty much be the GOAT

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TimDawg    United States. Jan 23 2015 04:03. Posts 10197

i placed a bet of $190 at -190 on Aldo

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

cariadon   Estonia. Jan 23 2015 04:15. Posts 4019


  On January 22 2015 23:38 Baalim wrote:
whats exciting is that if CM beats Aldo then he would pretty much be the GOAT



don't forget best pound for pound fighter that has ever roamed the earth


YoMeR   United States. Jan 23 2015 07:44. Posts 12435

bet 6 units on aldo at -190...he's gonna lay down the bulldoze.

eZ Life. 

Nazgul    Netherlands. Jan 23 2015 16:36. Posts 7080

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

 
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