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Bejamin1   Canada. Feb 05 2012 13:48. Posts 7042 | | |
| | On February 05 2012 00:08 Loco wrote:
The whole "everyone has its flaws so don't be quick to judge" thing is all fine and dandy, Benjamin, but no one is trying to reduce wobbly's person to one of his less attractive traits. It's just being pointed out. You don't need to be close to someone to express an opinion of a particular character trait, such as saying that they are a show-off and arrogant. You just need to have observed it having been demonstrated often. If I were to read a few years' worth of someone's personal journal without ever meeting him, I could quite easily understand a thing or two about his personality; no need for a close bond. It isn't a stretch to say that his posts and his blog give enough insight into his personality for this to be possible.
The very fact that so many people have given him the same criticism should be an indicator that there is truth to it. He can either choose to slowly come to terms with it, or deceive himself more like he just did a few posts ago by thinking that all the people offering the criticism are just secretly envious of him, which is just more evidence of his need to convince himself that he is superior to others. "Ah! He can only criticize me because he can't measure up. He only wishes he were me, but can't admit it." This is self-delusional behavior. He turns criticism into praise-denial by thinking that the 'hater' would praise him if he was honest with himself, and could admit to himself how truly great he is. |
I'm sure some of that is somewhat true. I just hold the opinion that people's behavior on the internet is often markedly different than their behavior in real life. In addition to this most of the people bashing him are just joining the crowd like sheep. I doubt very many of them have gone to any effort to actually look at his posting history or examine his behavior. As Mark Twain once said, "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect". A lot of people believe in Scientology, doesn't really lend and legitimacy to their opinions IMO. |
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uiCk   Canada. Feb 05 2012 14:37. Posts 3521 | | |
| | On February 05 2012 12:48 Bejamin1 wrote:
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On February 05 2012 00:08 Loco wrote:
The whole "everyone has its flaws so don't be quick to judge" thing is all fine and dandy, Benjamin, but no one is trying to reduce wobbly's person to one of his less attractive traits. It's just being pointed out. You don't need to be close to someone to express an opinion of a particular character trait, such as saying that they are a show-off and arrogant. You just need to have observed it having been demonstrated often. If I were to read a few years' worth of someone's personal journal without ever meeting him, I could quite easily understand a thing or two about his personality; no need for a close bond. It isn't a stretch to say that his posts and his blog give enough insight into his personality for this to be possible.
The very fact that so many people have given him the same criticism should be an indicator that there is truth to it. He can either choose to slowly come to terms with it, or deceive himself more like he just did a few posts ago by thinking that all the people offering the criticism are just secretly envious of him, which is just more evidence of his need to convince himself that he is superior to others. "Ah! He can only criticize me because he can't measure up. He only wishes he were me, but can't admit it." This is self-delusional behavior. He turns criticism into praise-denial by thinking that the 'hater' would praise him if he was honest with himself, and could admit to himself how truly great he is. |
I'm sure some of that is somewhat true. I just hold the opinion that people's behavior on the internet is often markedly different than their behavior in real life. In addition to this most of the people bashing him are just joining the crowd like sheep. I doubt very many of them have gone to any effort to actually look at his posting history or examine his behavior. As Mark Twain once said, "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect". A lot of people believe in Scientology, doesn't really lend and legitimacy to their opinions IMO.
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usually , people on the internet will do what they dont do in real life, so yea they act different, but in a way they act the same, just that in real life you would not go on bashing and acting like a psy to someone you barley know. Just like i doubt wobbly goes around telling strangers or people he barley knows that he's better then them and thats why he makes more money.
Everyone's acting arrogant, including daut and loco. But that's because the premise is arrogance, and everyone has some insecurities (except rekrul obv) and feel attacked. Wethere it's wobblys "im better then you" or Loco's "i know better then you".
IMO some interesting stuff, and hopefully no one's taking this too seriously.
<3 LP
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Daut   United States. Feb 05 2012 16:14. Posts 8955 | | |
| | On February 04 2012 21:43 ilbh wrote:
he can be a douchebag, but calling his gf a 3.5 and stuff like that is soooooooo low...
also, poker players not deserving props? you forgot the talent, mental discipline, work ethics, people reads and everything else a good poker player needs to be succedded in the long run. it's probably one of the hardest professions out there.
if you don't have nothing to say about him other than he is a douche, don't try too hard finding arguments.
btw, I do admire him for his skills and how he is involved here, always posting blogs, hands and commentating about it. I don't see any problem if he brags or not, what's the big deal about it? why does it have to bother so much people like that? and his gf is cute, wtf...
I'm a no one, but I had to give my 2 cents cause the things some people said about wobbly here is disgusting and immature... |
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| | On February 03 2012 21:56 Zep wrote:
The only thing I truly loved wobbly for was wobbly vs exhilarate. That hand will live on forever. lp gold. |
You mean this one? |
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Chewits   United Kingdom. Feb 05 2012 17:14. Posts 2539 | | |
| | On February 05 2012 15:47 jeffv8x_-_16 wrote:
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On February 03 2012 21:56 Zep wrote:
The only thing I truly loved wobbly for was wobbly vs exhilarate. That hand will live on forever. lp gold. |
You mean this one?
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LOL funny thread. Missed this before. Thanks |
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Silver_nz   New Zealand. Feb 06 2012 03:29. Posts 5647 | | | |
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Feb 06 2012 04:48. Posts 4080 | | |
11 clones of me would kill wobbly |
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Loco   Canada. Feb 06 2012 05:09. Posts 21022 | | |
| | On February 05 2012 09:47 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
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On February 04 2012 21:24 Loco wrote:
| | On February 04 2012 12:53 bigredhoss wrote:
| | On February 04 2012 08:18 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Take Ali 'Somnius' from pokerstrategy, his way of poker is a way of a healthy lifestyle, contact with people and caring about his family (he does all these things because they increase his long term results in poker), there aren't many jobs out there that allow you to do this to the scale you choose |
| | On February 04 2012 08:35 Loco wrote:
He cares about people and his family because it increases his long term results in poker? lolz |
| | On February 04 2012 10:36 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Yeah it does :O
Try getting your hands at neuropsychology of poker, and the impact of neurotransmitters.
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lemon i think loco's comment was referring to the way you phrased that guy's "healthy lifestyle" (saying that he cares about people and his family because they increase his long-term results in poker, rather than caring about those things because he's a halfway decent human being).
i don't want to put words in his mouth but at least that was my reaction when i read it.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. I'm amazed that Lemon looks up to that guy, what a joke. That's not 'care' for people, that's using people; it's avoiding to say the truth that they only have utilitarian value: "Please distract me for a while so that I get some nice dopamine levels to make sure I don't burn out at poker which is indefinitely more important to me than you guys are." |
What's wrong with helping other people and making them happy because it makes me feel fulfilled? :O
Maybe I see the world from the view of an economist too much, but everything you do you do because it gives you utility, being it money, satisfaction, sense of fulfillment or higher serotonin uptake, whether you realize it or not.
I guess we can agree do disagree though, there are different views on life and no one of them is the true correct one (although confirmation bias will make you think otherwise) |
It's not about agreeing to disagree... it's really about disapproval. I completely disapprove of your worldview and the way you treat others. "I'll do this because it gives me this". It reduces interpersonal relationships to shit. This world is really fucked in so many ways and the only place to start in fixing it is caring for others. And certainly when you reduce your motives in life to the state of your neurotransmitters and what will give you most satisfaction, you don't do that and you are not a model to follow from my perspective. I'm certainly not one of the people you could make happy. You might as well shoot heroin if the main purpose of life is to feel good. A good person often sacrifices for others, they don't always think in terms of what other people can give them. Yeah, I'm not going to deny that we are often unconsciously driven by self-interest, but when you consciously build your life around the premise that everything should be "+EV" or whatever the hell poker analogy you want to apply to your life, you really suck. My 2 cents. |
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Loco   Canada. Feb 06 2012 05:20. Posts 21022 | | |
| | On February 05 2012 13:37 uiCk wrote:
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On February 05 2012 12:48 Bejamin1 wrote:
| | On February 05 2012 00:08 Loco wrote:
The whole "everyone has its flaws so don't be quick to judge" thing is all fine and dandy, Benjamin, but no one is trying to reduce wobbly's person to one of his less attractive traits. It's just being pointed out. You don't need to be close to someone to express an opinion of a particular character trait, such as saying that they are a show-off and arrogant. You just need to have observed it having been demonstrated often. If I were to read a few years' worth of someone's personal journal without ever meeting him, I could quite easily understand a thing or two about his personality; no need for a close bond. It isn't a stretch to say that his posts and his blog give enough insight into his personality for this to be possible.
The very fact that so many people have given him the same criticism should be an indicator that there is truth to it. He can either choose to slowly come to terms with it, or deceive himself more like he just did a few posts ago by thinking that all the people offering the criticism are just secretly envious of him, which is just more evidence of his need to convince himself that he is superior to others. "Ah! He can only criticize me because he can't measure up. He only wishes he were me, but can't admit it." This is self-delusional behavior. He turns criticism into praise-denial by thinking that the 'hater' would praise him if he was honest with himself, and could admit to himself how truly great he is. |
I'm sure some of that is somewhat true. I just hold the opinion that people's behavior on the internet is often markedly different than their behavior in real life. In addition to this most of the people bashing him are just joining the crowd like sheep. I doubt very many of them have gone to any effort to actually look at his posting history or examine his behavior. As Mark Twain once said, "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect". A lot of people believe in Scientology, doesn't really lend and legitimacy to their opinions IMO.
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usually , people on the internet will do what they dont do in real life, so yea they act different, but in a way they act the same, just that in real life you would not go on bashing and acting like a psy to someone you barley know. Just like i doubt wobbly goes around telling strangers or people he barley knows that he's better then them and thats why he makes more money.
Everyone's acting arrogant, including daut and loco. But that's because the premise is arrogance, and everyone has some insecurities (except rekrul obv) and feel attacked. Wethere it's wobblys "im better then you" or Loco's "i know better then you".
IMO some interesting stuff, and hopefully no one's taking this too seriously.
<3 LP
Had to give my 2 cents, considering everyone is. |
I see what you mean, in many cases it is probably quite true that we criticize others' flaws to camouflage our own. But I'd say in this case it has more to do with "I'm in a better place to see it as it really is", because I am strictly an observer and not emotionally involved. I have no personal problem with wobbly, even though his personality does not appeal to me.
And in my case it's certainly true that I don't behave the same irl, but that's because I prioritize conflict avoidance. There's nothing I dislike more than being around people that are agitated. |
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flounder44   United States. Feb 06 2012 06:31. Posts 916 | | |
So wobbly how was your day today? Pwn any fishes on the online felts or any lpers lately? You are such a class act and good role model, please give us every detail!!! |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Feb 06 2012 07:03. Posts 6374 | | |
pretty sad 'how is noone excited raszi is busto' thread was closed right after neilly came to share his worthless opinion |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 06 2012 08:52. Posts 15163 | | |
| | On February 06 2012 04:09 Loco wrote:
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On February 05 2012 09:47 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
| | On February 04 2012 21:24 Loco wrote:
| | On February 04 2012 12:53 bigredhoss wrote:
| | On February 04 2012 08:18 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Take Ali 'Somnius' from pokerstrategy, his way of poker is a way of a healthy lifestyle, contact with people and caring about his family (he does all these things because they increase his long term results in poker), there aren't many jobs out there that allow you to do this to the scale you choose |
| | On February 04 2012 08:35 Loco wrote:
He cares about people and his family because it increases his long term results in poker? lolz |
| | On February 04 2012 10:36 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Yeah it does :O
Try getting your hands at neuropsychology of poker, and the impact of neurotransmitters.
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lemon i think loco's comment was referring to the way you phrased that guy's "healthy lifestyle" (saying that he cares about people and his family because they increase his long-term results in poker, rather than caring about those things because he's a halfway decent human being).
i don't want to put words in his mouth but at least that was my reaction when i read it.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. I'm amazed that Lemon looks up to that guy, what a joke. That's not 'care' for people, that's using people; it's avoiding to say the truth that they only have utilitarian value: "Please distract me for a while so that I get some nice dopamine levels to make sure I don't burn out at poker which is indefinitely more important to me than you guys are." |
What's wrong with helping other people and making them happy because it makes me feel fulfilled? :O
Maybe I see the world from the view of an economist too much, but everything you do you do because it gives you utility, being it money, satisfaction, sense of fulfillment or higher serotonin uptake, whether you realize it or not.
I guess we can agree do disagree though, there are different views on life and no one of them is the true correct one (although confirmation bias will make you think otherwise) |
It's not about agreeing to disagree... it's really about disapproval. I completely disapprove of your worldview and the way you treat others. "I'll do this because it gives me this". It reduces interpersonal relationships to shit. This world is really fucked in so many ways and the only place to start in fixing it is caring for others. And certainly when you reduce your motives in life to the state of your neurotransmitters and what will give you most satisfaction, you don't do that and you are not a model to follow from my perspective. I'm certainly not one of the people you could make happy. You might as well shoot heroin if the main purpose of life is to feel good. A good person often sacrifices for others, they don't always think in terms of what other people can give them. Yeah, I'm not going to deny that we are often unconsciously driven by self-interest, but when you consciously build your life around the premise that everything should be "+EV" or whatever the hell poker analogy you want to apply to your life, you really suck. My 2 cents. |
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GfOrcebOnd   United States. Mar 01 2012 07:55. Posts 429 | | |
wobbly is a little bitch homo that has a small dick. His gf told me.
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Twisted   Netherlands. Mar 01 2012 08:01. Posts 10422 | | |
Productive bump man, congrats. |
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Fayth   Canada. Mar 01 2012 11:47. Posts 10085 | | |
I somewhat enjoy reading loco when he's arguing with other people lol |
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waga   United Kingdom. Mar 01 2012 13:12. Posts 2375 | | |
| | On March 01 2012 06:55 GfOrcebOnd wrote:
wobbly is a little bitch homo that has a small dick. His gf told me. |
congratz for your future ban. |
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Mar 01 2012 17:17. Posts 4080 | | |
| | On March 01 2012 06:55 GfOrcebOnd wrote:
wobbly is pissed that he lost to rainkhan in starcraft 2, therefore he has a small ethernet cord connected to his computer. His gf told me. |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Mar 01 2012 18:38. Posts 6540 | | |
| | On March 01 2012 16:17 RaiNKhAN wrote:
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On March 01 2012 06:55 GfOrcebOnd wrote:
wobbly is pissed that he lost to rainkhan in starcraft 2, therefore he has a small ethernet cord connected to his computer. His gf told me. |
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I won first map and you won 2nd~ 1:1.
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