not a toTheEastSide thread

HOLY SHIT I checked and theres no wikipedia of him even though he has many many many fans.

coincidence? Also the Gov already called him a liar and said he's an evil communist.

On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote: Show nested quote + On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that.

This is totally ignorant and wrong.

First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit.

Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea

Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan?




Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue.

On February 10 2010 10:05 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote:   On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that. This is totally ignorant and wrong. First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit. Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan? Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue.

I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo.
I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important.
Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow.

Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people?

On February 10 2010 13:40 lukeperry wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2010 10:05 Baal wrote:   On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote:   On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that. This is totally ignorant and wrong. First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit. Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan? Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue. I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo. I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important. Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow. Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people?

this probably a dumb question but given my image i think its ok to ask?
how do these terrorists networks over in afghanistan even know we exist?
like why attack us why not russia or haiti or mexico or cananda or brazil?
wtf...
if people are willing to die trying to kill us, people in USA
what the fuck did we do?
what would someone have to do to you for you to be willing to die to kill that someone?
u think they are not people because they are born in the middle east?
they are just like you, just on different territory.
when we kill their families its collateral damage/war
when they kill our families its terrorism
fack you

On February 10 2010 14:04 woodbrave1 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2010 13:40 lukeperry wrote:   On February 10 2010 10:05 Baal wrote:   On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote:   On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that. This is totally ignorant and wrong. First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit. Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan? Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue. I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo. I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important. Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow. Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people? this probably a dumb question but given my image i think its ok to ask? how do these terrorists networks over in afghanistan even know we exist? like why attack us why not russia or haiti or mexico or cananda or brazil? wtf... if people are willing to die trying to kill us, people in USA what the fuck did we do? what would someone have to do to you for you to be willing to die to kill that someone? u think they are not people because they are born in the middle east? they are just like you, just on different territory. when we kill their families its collateral damage/war when they kill our families its terrorism fack you

lol trying to put words in my mouth are we? try again

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just realized I'm trying to argue with two of the most narrow minded people on LP, think I'll go touch myself instead of wasting time here.

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On February 10 2010 13:40 lukeperry wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2010 10:05 Baal wrote:   On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote:   On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that. This is totally ignorant and wrong. First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit. Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan? Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue. I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo. I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important. Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow. Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people?

Except that Al-Qaeda has wrong immensely after the american invasion to Afghanistan.

You are retarded because it seems you dont understand how and why these terrorist cells exists, and that is because of hatred and revenge, you invade a country and occupy it, people harmed by this and with a strong nationalistic or religious sense join forces to take revenge.

Do you seriously believe you can get into a country and occupy it for 10 years, and kill all the terrorists there? are you 10 years old or something? occupying a country for 10 years only creates millions of people who hate you, so basically every second you spend in iran and afghanistan, you are creating a new terrorist and fueling their cause, leave now, apologize for your crimes, adopt a proper foreign policy of no intervention and the hatred will eventually fade away.

On February 10 2010 14:04 woodbrave1 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2010 13:40 lukeperry wrote:   On February 10 2010 10:05 Baal wrote:   On February 09 2010 10:22 lukeperry wrote:   On February 09 2010 01:04 Baal wrote:   On February 08 2010 23:14 blackjacki2 wrote: I think it's extremely important that everyone remembers how big of a mistake this war is and that Bush goes down as one of the worst presidents in history IS... that is the important part, the war is still going on, and it will grow bigger in Afghanistan. Does anybody with a 3 digit IQ really believes the "we cant leave right now" excuse?, does anyone else buy that Afghanistan "is the war that we should be fighting" ? i mean seriously what the fuck Laden is not in fucking Afghanistan what the fuck are you people doing there terrorizing that poor country, gtfo of there. The taliban have said in several interviews that once the non-belivers have been defeated they will take the war to Europe, mainly Britain. Do you really think they will just lay down there weapons and go back to farming if all the troops was withdrawn tomorrow? They fucking hate americans and their allies. It's not about finding bin Laden anymore and any reasonably intelligent person can see that. This is totally ignorant and wrong. First of all, have u wondered for one second why they hate americans?, why arent they declaring war to mmm.. Brazil?, Its because the united states has manipulated the middle east for a long time, creating coup d'etats when they see fit. Actually a little history lessons would be good for you, the united states defended the poor good Afghanistan from the Russian advances, they provided weapons and military support for personal selfish reasons obviously, just like they did recently with Georgia which was just a way to stop russia from controlling Georgia with is the key between the oil ducts from Azerbajan to the Caspian Sea Could you please explain to me why is ocuping afghanistan for 9 years is rasonable when you are chasing a Saudi Arabian man hiding in Pakistan? Also good job on dodging the war on iraq issue. I never said I supported the war in Afghanistan, I said its not as easy to withdraw from there as you seem to think. If everyone left now the taliban would start attacking targets in Europe and America as a payback. ISAF must continue now, we're in too deep to just gtfo. I thought it was common knowledge that the US has always supported different governments and countries to forward their own agenda? I'm not defending Americas actions, trust me. But withdrawing now is flat out retarded. I'm just glad you and your kind arent in charge anywhere important. Like I said, the war in Afghanistan is not only about capturing bin Laden anymore. It's about taking down a terrorist network who will fuck people up if they're left alone tomorrow. Dodging the Iraq issue? Your post was about the war in Afghanistan and I replied with my thoughts on it. I'm not dodging anything. Are you really this dumb or do you just like to annoy people? this probably a dumb question but given my image i think its ok to ask? how do these terrorists networks over in afghanistan even know we exist? like why attack us why not russia or haiti or mexico or cananda or brazil? wtf... if people are willing to die trying to kill us, people in USA what the fuck did we do? what would someone have to do to you for you to be willing to die to kill that someone? u think they are not people because they are born in the middle east? they are just like you, just on different territory. when we kill their families its collateral damage/war when they kill our families its terrorism fack you

simple explanation on why towelheads hate your country: your country backed the jews, jews restole land off the towel heads, towel head leaders tell their people to hate americans.

why are Americans complaining about this? isn't this what your country wanted? To kill people so you can drive your suv 100m down the street to the market? Over 50% of people voted for bush, twice! I think this shows that a proper education is needed for americans, like this veteran, who seemed to be unaware of what war was before he joined it. Why did he go to war? you'd think that after WW2 people would know what war was. Well, at least germany knows what it is and stay the fuck out of it.

Also the last 20 seconds of that speech reminded me of hitler, heh.

what about the train bombings in Spain?

Morality isn't decided by a majority vote, its decided by your conscious.
St. Augustine said, "an unjust law is no law at all."
I'm obligated to resist unjust laws through violence or civil disobedience. You should pray I choose the latter.

On February 10 2010 19:46 Currency wrote: what about the train bombings in Spain?

Spain's least of terrorist worries are the muslims, they have a way bigger issue with the ETA

On February 10 2010 19:24 Stroggos wrote: why are Americans complaining about this? isn't this what your country wanted? To kill people so you can drive your suv 100m down the street to the market? Over 50% of people voted for bush, twice! I think this shows that a proper education is needed for americans, like this veteran, who seemed to be unaware of what war was before he joined it. Why did he go to war? you'd think that after WW2 people would know what war was. Well, at least germany knows what it is and stay the fuck out of it. Also the last 20 seconds of that speech reminded me of hitler, heh.

Some really unecessary statements. Most of the people on this site weren't even old enough to vote back during the elections involving Bush. Why you gotta point fingers at people, yeah the war is some stupid shit but wtf. Yes a lot of Americans drive suvs, but people all around the world wear clothing made in swet shops where people are enslaved, people all around the world buy diamonds that may have come from Sierre Leone in Africa, etc etc. Ignorance and greed is spread all over the globe, you're just saying a bunch of statements that are unecessarily grouping people together and causing more hatred.

Anyways its not like we were attacked by terrorists, then elected Bush so we can wage war, then went to war. People elected Bush, we were attacked by terrorists, then we were like wtf what happened? Bush said we're going to war, our congress said "uh no we're not" then Bush said "Fuck you we're going to war."

On February 10 2010 19:24 Stroggos wrote: why are Americans complaining about this? isn't this what your country wanted? To kill people so you can drive your suv 100m down the street to the market? Over 50% of people voted for bush, twice! I think this shows that a proper education is needed for americans, like this veteran, who seemed to be unaware of what war was before he joined it. Why did he go to war? you'd think that after WW2 people would know what war was. Well, at least germany knows what it is and stay the fuck out of it. Also the last 20 seconds of that speech reminded me of hitler, heh.

less than 25% of the people voted for bush actually. still enough to win an election, sadly

On February 11 2010 04:12 blackjacki2 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 10 2010 19:24 Stroggos wrote: why are Americans complaining about this? isn't this what your country wanted? To kill people so you can drive your suv 100m down the street to the market? Over 50% of people voted for bush, twice! I think this shows that a proper education is needed for americans, like this veteran, who seemed to be unaware of what war was before he joined it. Why did he go to war? you'd think that after WW2 people would know what war was. Well, at least germany knows what it is and stay the fuck out of it. Also the last 20 seconds of that speech reminded me of hitler, heh. less than 25% of the people voted for bush actually. still enough to win an election, sadly

yeah wtf is up with that electoral college bullshit? does it even serve a higher, fairer purpose?

On February 11 2010 04:37 whamm! wrote: Show nested quote + On February 11 2010 04:12 blackjacki2 wrote:   On February 10 2010 19:24 Stroggos wrote: why are Americans complaining about this? isn't this what your country wanted? To kill people so you can drive your suv 100m down the street to the market? Over 50% of people voted for bush, twice! I think this shows that a proper education is needed for americans, like this veteran, who seemed to be unaware of what war was before he joined it. Why did he go to war? you'd think that after WW2 people would know what war was. Well, at least germany knows what it is and stay the fuck out of it. Also the last 20 seconds of that speech reminded me of hitler, heh. less than 25% of the people voted for bush actually. still enough to win an election, sadly yeah wtf is up with that electoral college bullshit? does it even serve a higher, fairer purpose?

it's not electoral college bullshit. It's called 50% voter turnout bullshit

I'm tired of this "they hate us for our freedom" crap. You'd have to be incredibly ignorant of foreign affairs to buy into that nonsense. Islam has been under an assault by the western world for quite some time and terrorist attacks are a reaction of that. One country in particular stands above others as the most egregious offendor, whose actions are so despicable they have all but destroyed any hope for peace for the next 100 years.

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On February 11 2010 04:49 blackjacki2 wrote: I'm tired of this "they hate us for our freedom" crap. You'd have to be incredibly ignorant of foreign affairs to buy into that nonsense. Islam has been under an assault by the western world for quite some time and terrorist attacks are a reaction of that. One country in particular stands above others as the most egregious offendor, whose actions are so despicable they have all but destroyed any hope for peace for the next 100 years. + Show Spoiler + That's right, I'm looking at you Denmark. Now I'm no history buff so I'm not totally sure what you assholes did, but knock it the fuck off or expect more embassy bombings. Actually I won't lie. It was nice to see people burning a flag that wasn't American for a change.

Lol are you serious? Learn some history dude, Islam has been at war with the west for like 500 years now. Bomb an embassy and kill people over a cartoon, is that justifiable by your logic? The west is going down the drain fast