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Edjon   Netherlands. Aug 14 2014 06:13. Posts 1579

Hand from the WSOP Big One for One Drop and aired yesterday:



I don't know whether Seiver is douchy at the end or fishing for information.

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 Last edit: 14/08/2014 06:14

traxamillion   United States. Aug 14 2014 09:05. Posts 10468

Sievert is a boss at all games and destroyed the German here with the chat. Scott likes to chat. I thought siever would sit still the whole time but I think he gets called if he does. Pay jumps were massive so the bet puts a ton of pressure obviously.

Scott really did think he had less than aa thus the chat at the end. Wouldn't be the first time he said some just what he thinks or some douchey shit.


traxamillion   United States. Aug 14 2014 09:07. Posts 10468

Also DNegs did him a big favor calling the clock after an appropriate time because they are boys. He was probably folding anyways but that helped.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 14 2014 09:14. Posts 9634

Why the fuck would he fold.. what?! Underepped his hand big time and villain's range w that lane is crushed


Hoolz_1907   United Kingdom. Aug 14 2014 09:39. Posts 2791

Yea I don't get this fold either but the speech from Seiver was pretty good I thought. Personally I think calling clock here is fine even though yes it's a massive tourney, everyone on the FT was relatively shallow stacked and he was 10 minutes into the tank.

Look at his hand and equities, what do you expect him to have here, uno cards? - TianYuan 

JosephCalgary   Canada. Aug 14 2014 12:41. Posts 285

My man put him on pocket 2s or pocket 4s raising from ep. I dont really get sievers shove, couldnt he be shoving into a made flush?

What is the crime for apostasy?!Last edit: 14/08/2014 12:44

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 14 2014 12:52. Posts 9634

Raising pocket 2s or pockets 4s 9man with short stack - does he also believe that Seiver is a huge whale?
And yes the only thing that he s repping that beats his AA is exactly a flush considering the board the combos are really low amount and he could be doin that with tons of other hands that have Ac for instance, other than QQ & JJ i dont see Seiver having sets

 Last edit: 14/08/2014 12:54

traxamillion   United States. Aug 14 2014 13:55. Posts 10468


  On August 14 2014 11:41 JosephCalgary wrote:
My man put him on pocket 2s or pocket 4s raising from ep. I dont really get sievers shove, couldnt he be shoving into a made flush?



He could be shoving into a flush but not likely. More like siever turned outs and decided to bluff out vs a weak range.

Keep in mind newest and Solomon were still at the table and the German assumes he has a huge edge over them. Folding turn he maintains a decent stack and can own the fish and try to climb the pay ladder which was EXTREMELY top heavy.

 Last edit: 14/08/2014 13:56

JosephCalgary   Canada. Aug 14 2014 15:32. Posts 285

Siever started the hand with less than 20 big blinds. Its completely unacceptable to fold aces at any point in the hand when stacks are this short except if 4 damn clubs on the board. Dude theres 3 clubs there, not 4. I understand the 10 minute decision with 4 clubs on the board but not with 3.
I really like the flat call with Aces preflop because your range looks so incredibly weak when you call. And hes just going to attack that weak range. If dude was tight opener from EP Id 3bet, but vs a loose goose like siever way better to flat call and slow play.
I mean its not 100% siever is shipping a flush on the turn, he could do a smaller bet and then allin the river. That allin bet is a big bet to call, why would he shove a flush when u know its going to get a lot of folds.

What is the crime for apostasy?!Last edit: 14/08/2014 15:43

TimDawg    United States. Aug 14 2014 17:51. Posts 10197

pretty absurdly bad fold

lol tournament players

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

traxamillion   United States. Aug 14 2014 19:18. Posts 10468

i would usually agree lol tourney players but renkemeir plays nothing but high rollers and plays big cash as well. He is a good player and obviously knew his fold was non-standard/bad. Just tried to hero fold and failed but you gotta look at the situation also its not like this was cash. He got kinda phased when siever started talking and leveling him with dat confidence


traxamillion   United States. Aug 14 2014 19:20. Posts 10468

Siever could have KK and play it like that for value so his aa fold is bad again but if you listen to renkemeir he incorrectly assumed he was way behind (2pair-flushes) or somewhat ahead of a combo draw like K10 with a club


Skoal   Canada. Aug 14 2014 20:39. Posts 460

dat 11 bb shove

salomon's face after the AA gets turned up is priceless too

 Last edit: 14/08/2014 20:39

NMcNasty    United States. Aug 14 2014 20:54. Posts 2039

Seems like he wanted to make a hero fold in a big tournament on TV. I was also not a fan of Negreanu's hero call with KQ. Just all the table talk and body language leading up to the plays it seemed like both players were relishing the idea of being a hero.


Baalim   Mexico. Aug 15 2014 00:17. Posts 34250


  On August 14 2014 18:20 traxamillion wrote:
Siever could have KK and play it like that for value so his aa fold is bad again but if you listen to renkemeir he incorrectly assumed he was way behind (2pair-flushes) or somewhat ahead of a combo draw like K10 with a club



well obvioulsy he thought he was behind otherwise he wouldnt have folded, its still a terrible fold regardless of what he thinks

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Edjon   Netherlands. Aug 15 2014 03:07. Posts 1579


  On August 14 2014 19:54 NMcNasty wrote:
Seems like he wanted to make a hero fold in a big tournament on TV. I was also not a fan of Negreanu's hero call with KQ. Just all the table talk and body language leading up to the plays it seemed like both players were relishing the idea of being a hero.





Interesting hand as well


Highcard   Canada. Aug 15 2014 06:43. Posts 5428

reinkemeier should have just bought me into the 1 drop

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

Edjon   Netherlands. Aug 15 2014 08:15. Posts 1579


  On August 15 2014 05:43 Highcard wrote:
reinkemeier should have just bought me into the 1 drop



I think you should talk to Reinkemeier's backers ;-)


Gnarly   United States. Aug 15 2014 13:35. Posts 1723

>when he tells him that he's either got kj or kt
>the dude starts breathing faster once he's found out

Diversify or fossilize! 

JosephCalgary   Canada. Aug 15 2014 13:55. Posts 285

reinkemeier had backers? oh that hurts so much. Its really unlikely siever is raising low suited connector hands from early position with sub 20bb. What hand is he scared of that beats AA?

What is the crime for apostasy?! 

 
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