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pinbaLL    Sweden. Dec 13 2005 08:55. Posts 7243

Holy cow :O
GEEZ


JinKazama23   United States. Dec 13 2005 08:56. Posts 347

gogo Howard

Nobody loves me 

The72o   Zimbabwe. Dec 13 2005 09:00. Posts 6112

Holy Shit!
I want to see Negreanu in this

A Hard Way to Make an Easy Living 

pinbaLL    Sweden. Dec 13 2005 09:06. Posts 7243


  On December 13 2005 08:00 The72o wrote:
Holy Shit!
I want to see Negreanu in this


You said it, maaan!


JustFun[est]   Estonia. Dec 13 2005 09:10. Posts 467

i hope Johhny Chan buys in but this is crazy


Joe   Czech Republic. Dec 13 2005 09:39. Posts 5987

omfg didnt know poker pros are so fucking rich that they can afford to play and possibly lose $10M...

btw is it going to be "winner takes it all"?

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell)Last edit: 13/12/2005 10:45

pinbaLL    Sweden. Dec 13 2005 09:53. Posts 7243

I have heard of a $10 000 000 game before. $50k/$100k limit headsup. Know I have a pokermagazin where there is an article about it..


The72o   Zimbabwe. Dec 13 2005 09:58. Posts 6112

Who played in that headsup match?

A Hard Way to Make an Easy Living 

anon   Lithuania. Dec 13 2005 10:26. Posts 5965

ROFl...........

Doyle Brunson: Fights with your wife or girlfriend are not healthy for you bank roll 

Roald   Tuvalu. Dec 13 2005 10:27. Posts 2683

I can't imagine that there exist 3 other people that have that much $$ to throw around. Even Ivey would be denting himself pretty bad by buying in here.

drugs, animals, children are welcome -Xavier 

sOah   United Kingdom. Dec 13 2005 10:31. Posts 4527

hmmm Hellmuth said the biggest pot he saw lost was around 16$mill. in a cash game.. =). I like this idea if it's completely open to the first come first served entrants.

not all who wander are lost 

BBM   Canada. Dec 13 2005 10:42. Posts 508

Huge game

I don't think all of the aforementioned pros can afford this. Johnny Chan is said to own 10 houses in USA, but his net worth is less than that of many other pros. Phil Ivey, the most successful pro with announced earn of 30 million dollars a year can hardly afford this game. Think about it, if you earn 100k a year, which isn't bad at all, would you dedicate 1/3 of that, 30-35k on a chance to sextuple up that has less than a 50% chance of working?

Anyway, I did a search on Google for the biggest games. Found an article on cardplayer.com about "Andy Beal, the affable Texas financier", suggesting to play in a heads-up limit game against Doyle Brunson(?). The guy suggested 100-200k blinds, Brunson, 15-30k. This article is about developments in the middle of the story so it's not quite clear from it what comes of all this. Anybody know? http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_magaz...article.php?a_id=14320&m_id=65548

Hah, in another CardPlayer article, Andy Beal writes a letter addressed to the most renowned poker players. This here below ... interesting stuff


  From The Desk Of Andy Beal

Dallas, Texas
Date: September 2004

To: Doyle Brunson, Chip Reese, Todd Brunson, Jennifer Harman, Howard Lederer, Chau Giang, Barry Greenstein, Ted Forrest, Gus Hansen, Lee Salem, John Hennigan, Ming La, Lyle Berman, Phil Ivey, Johnny Chan, Hamid Dastmalchi

I recently read a story in the New York Daily News that is an unfair mischaracterization of my recent poker experience in the "Big Game" played at Bellagio.

No mention was made that I won more than $10 million in the largest game ever played, $100,000-$200,000 limit hold'em, on May 12 and 13, 2004. No mention was made of the fact that most of the above-mentioned professional players have substantial overall individual net losses after having played many hours against me. I concede that I am a net overall loser in the Bellagio games, although the extent of my losses is often exaggerated and mischaracterized.

These stories have become like fishermen's tales, in which the fish is always getting bigger every time the story is told. I spent four years learning the game from the best. Does it surprise anyone that I was an overall net loser during that period? Now, you want to reduce the stakes and refuse to continue to play at the previous betting limits. Does it surprise anyone that I have little interest in traveling to play in smaller games? My interest has always been the intellectual challenge of competing with the best, in games in which the amount bet is material to the people involved. I have played the best in the largest game ever played, and I won. I had a great time and a wonderful experience, but I have little interest in continuing to play the game, because of the time commitment and travel required to maintain excellence.

Call me naïve (I've been called worse), but I believe that I am the favorite in a heads-up limit high-stakes game against most of you. For the record, I challenge you to put up or shut up about your "professional play." Come to Dallas and play me for four hours a day and I will play until one of us runs out of money or cries uncle. If your play is so great and your wins have been as large as you claim, you should have plenty of bankroll and be jumping at the chance to come and play another $100,000-$200,000 game and win a lot more money. I should add that you can bring your own independent dealers and your own cards, and can play in a different location of your choice every day if you wish. You should provide a slate of any six or more of the above players and I will pick from your slate who plays. Observers should be free to attend in order to record exactly what happens at this game, so it won't turn into another fisherman's story.

My money says you will decline, and that says it all. If you accept, the resulting game will say it all. Either way, I will get to stop reading fishermen's stories.

Andy Beal

P.S. This challenge is for now (starting September 2004), not weeks, months, or years from now.



http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/archives/?a_id=14268&m_id=65546


Doyle's response:


  From The Desk Of Doyle Brunson

Las Vegas, Nevada
Date: October 2004
To: Andy Beal

I'm very surprised at the hostile tone in which you wrote this open letter to us. It doesn't reflect the true character of the man all of us have learned to respect and admire. While I haven't talked to everyone concerned in this, I believe I speak for most.

First, I would like to apologize for any "fishermen's tales" that have been told. I know you are aware of the concern we have always had about discussing our game with anyone. I think you are aware of the way the media can distort anything they write about. I personally called you about the two writers wanting to write books on "the big game." After you had me give them your number, it appeared you weren't concerned with privacy any longer. You even wanted one of the writers to be an observer the next time we played.

As far as your challenge goes, we concede that you have more money than all of us put together. So, why would we want to get into a $100,000-$200,000 game in which we would be underfunded? We are pros, and we know the disadvantage of this. So, here is what we propose:

1. We will raise a $40 million bankroll and post it along with yours. (Everything is contingent on raising the money, but I think it is very realistic that we can expand and raise it.)

2. We will play 30K-60K. If either side loses half of its post-up money, it can raise the stakes to $50,000-$100,000. There is an old axiom that applies here: Get out the way you got in!

3. We will choose who plays and when.

4. We prefer to play in Vegas, the gambling capital of the world. Most of us live here, and what would we do in Dallas when we weren't playing? This is negotiable. The first three points aren't.

Andy, I'm chuckling as I write this closing paragraph. If Bill Gates came to Dallas and wanted to flip coins for $100 million per flip for four hours a day until one of you ran out of money or cried uncle, would you do it? My money says you would decline.

Respectfully,
Doyle Brunson



http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/archives/?a_id=14293&m_id=65547

From another article about Andy Beal:


  A new book by Michael Craig provides the answers — and more. The Professor, the Banker, and the Suicide King introduces you to Andy Beal, the Texas billionaire who is far more than just a “banker.” A genius with multiple successes in various business ventures, Beal pursues all of his passions with full force. When he got hooked on poker, he worked continuously to improve his game, going so far as to write his own computer program that would run millions of poker simulations and analyze the results.



http://www.cardplayer.com/cpcollege/article.php?a_id=71&m_id=2

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This is all unrelated but I just got curious about the biggest poker games and I think this will be interesting to some of you, though already well known to others.
Funny stuff

I carry all my important documents with me at all times in my wallet, because I do not intend to lose my walletLast edit: 13/12/2005 10:44

Kisu2826   United States. Dec 13 2005 10:57. Posts 110

a 10 mill buy in? good god....






how can i qualify online :D


Mig    United States. Dec 13 2005 11:03. Posts 1597

soah no Hellmuth has never lost even close to one pot for 16 mill ever. I have never even heard of a pot in one of the big cash games for over 500k.

The huge heads up match was between Andy Beal a rich texan banker and a group of the top pros. The pros didnt have enough money by themselves so they pooled their bankroll and then took turns playing Beal. So to get this 10 million it took all of the pros put together to get this money.

I really really doubt there are any pros willing to put up 10 million of their own money to play in this event. I would imagine any pro that plays will have a large large % of himself payed for by backers.

Ok as for who will play, Hellmuth has about a .00001% chance of playing in this. Hellmuth does not play the big cash games, he only play tournaments and there is no way in hell he has anywhere near the money needed to put up 10 million for 1 sit and go. The only way Hellmuth could enter this is if he got a huge huge amount of backers.

The players most likely to enter I would guess would be doyle, chip reese, and chan simply because these guys have had years and years to build their bankrolls and they may have the money to put up a decent % of the buy in. Ted Forrest and Negreanu both certainly have the gamble that would be required to risk that much money in 1 sng, however I am not sure either of them have the cash required. If they found some huge sponsers they might be able to enter.

I doubt Greenstein, Chau Giang or Jennifre Harmon would be willing to take this much risk in 1 sng, however I could be wrong about them and they might decide they want to play. If Gus Hanson had the money I am sure he would be more than willing to play, but with his reported struggles in the big game I doubt he has anywhere near the money to play. Todd Brunson will almost certainly not play simply because he very very rarely risks large amounts of money when he thinks he can find an easier game somewhere else. Todd Brunson is one of the best players in the world and yet he very rarely plays the big game for this reason. Mike Matusow, John Juanda, and Chris Ferguson I dont believe have the brs required.

So if I had to guess who the last 3 pros would be I would say some combination of doyle, chan, reese, negreanu, and ted forrest with possibly some other rich pro such as lyle berman stepping in.


pinbaLL    Sweden. Dec 13 2005 11:17. Posts 7243

BBM thats the one.. Andy Beal.. oh yeah.


cremdrol   Australia. Dec 13 2005 11:25. Posts 17

AWESOME
i live 10 minutes away from where it is being held at.. yahooo
i noticed at the casino, half of the room which had roulettes, blackjacks were replaced with poker tables, and it was abeautiful sight, poker tables all over the room, it was great.. now i know why, they're preparing for July $10 mill :D

o rly? 

JustFun[est]   Estonia. Dec 13 2005 11:27. Posts 467

Oh yeah i was thinking bill gates also ...

it would be great if bill gates competates and promises to donate money some helping organization if he wins


SpasticInk   Sweden. Dec 13 2005 11:39. Posts 6298

wow thats sick. anyone wanna stack me?


Wreckognize   . Dec 13 2005 12:05. Posts 1263

sounds awesome


TalentedTom    Canada. Dec 13 2005 12:17. Posts 20070

travis needs to get in there

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

 
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