1/3 Deep vs Carrotsnake and fish

On October 12 2007 04:57 [vital]Myth wrote: what i don't understand is...why do you think carrotsnake has you beaten?

He's scared of him obv... lol, 100% the fish has you beat before carrotsnake does in this spot. If you think you are good vs the fish, then ur decision is instant.

I just talked to carrotsnake about this hand in depth. He said it was definitely a fold. His reasoning was that basically, I am rarely ahead of BOTH their ranges here. Which I completely agree with. However, Jonny, you were right about him calling with AQ/KQ here, and obviously folding to a shove or any further action. That changes things a bit, but its prob still a fold? I do think maybe the fish would stack off with AQ here though.

Also, I agree the fish is ahead of me more than carrotsnake is. However, its not like carrot never has me beat here.

On October 12 2007 13:08 sooon2b wrote: I just talked to carrotsnake about this hand in depth. He said it was definitely a fold. His reasoning was that basically, I am rarely ahead of BOTH their ranges here. Which I completely agree with. However, Jonny, you were right about him calling with AQ/KQ here, and obviously folding to a shove or any further action. That changes things a bit, but its prob still a fold? I do think maybe the fish would stack off with AQ here though.

you don't have to be "ahead" of both ranges, you just need to have enough equity to get it in with all the money already out in the pot.

This is definitely a shove, i haven't read the thread though, but i'd be very happy with this result post flop if i'm in your position. tons of $ in the pot and usually you will end headsup with the shover with easily over 50% average equity.

rofl he's either messing w/ u or he's a donk... as i recall he's def a lagtard but not a donk. He'd def make more money playing at least a tiny bit tighter but he knows the fundamentals.

anyhow, you're on for that HU competition

BUT.... I am on tour now.... my band http://www.SG-AE.com just started our tour a few days ago.... which is also why i haven't been able to respond to ur message. The tour will be over in less than a month... but I am also moving outside the US and finding a place to live right afterwards. HOWEVER, when I actually start playing poker again I would like to take on ur challenge. I propose a first to 5K at 3/6. We can schedule this for the 13th... so a month from now. I'll even be a little rusty

anyway, obv it's really really immoral for you or me then though to ask someone to play for us or shadow us. If anyone thinks soon2b can't be trusted and has a story to give creedence plz PM me.

the 13th is coming...gogo HU FOR POSSESIONS

i doubt soon2b will go through with this

push it to the limit.

looking forward too this-.

mmmmm i am really confused as to why we think carrotsnake has us beat enough here to justify a fold..... i think we have to shove here 100% of the time and i am a nit =.=

This is like the most standard shove of all time, and he still doesn't get it

This must be a shove, always. I would be worried if a nit flatted my cbet, but carrotsnake, no worries.

carrotsnake sucks

On October 12 2007 13:08 sooon2b wrote:His reasoning was that basically, I am rarely ahead of BOTH their ranges here.

rofl

On October 13 2007 19:21 Steal City wrote: rofl he's either messing w/ u or he's a donk... as i recall he's def a lagtard but not a donk. He'd def make more money playing at least a tiny bit tighter but he knows the fundamentals. anyhow, you're on for that HU competition BUT.... I am on tour now.... my band http://www.SG-AE.com just started our tour a few days ago.... which is also why i haven't been able to respond to ur message. The tour will be over in less than a month... but I am also moving outside the US and finding a place to live right afterwards. HOWEVER, when I actually start playing poker again I would like to take on ur challenge. I propose a first to 5K at 3/6. We can schedule this for the 13th... so a month from now. I'll even be a little rusty anyway, obv it's really really immoral for you or me then though to ask someone to play for us or shadow us. If anyone thinks soon2b can't be trusted and has a story to give creedence plz PM me.

hey sorry, did not see this. Who are you again? I will do first to 3k and we have to refresh any tables that we both have 200bb or more. Cant do 5k atm because dont have that much online right now due to school and such. Anyways, I am down for this. As far as when, not sure I am pretty busy. Just pm me or get in contact with me on AIM.

Also, please dont question my integrity. I would NEVER cheat in an event of this nature. I also have no idea who you are so I hope I am actually better lol.

rofl ok, it's on then...

why did u wait till 2 days ago to accept? I have plans the next few nights and i'm in bangkok which is like 12 hours difference from EST. I don't like this 3K shit though... HU has so much volatility
5K is pretty necessary, otherwise it doesn't mean shit. I'm sure you can find someone here ez to exchange w/ u from FTP or whatever. Anyhow, let's plan this for either this weekend or the next weekend. (I may have to go out of town this weekend idk)

ok looks like i'll stay in bangkok this weekend so let's make it sometime then... ok?

fwiw, unless theres something i dont know about him, that looks like the worst pokerstove range ever.

he might flat Qxdd on flop, specifically AQdd but not shoving any other combo draw is straight retarded. i mean you have 67dd in his range after he flatted the flop for a fourth of his stack..

his range after flop should really be set, tt-aa, QT-AQ, AQdd/KQdd, naked flush draw