Coaching

What are your coaching credentials? All I can see is proof of you as a poker player (with a very small sample btw). Sorry to be a dick, I am looking for a long term coach and I will inevitably be very annoying as a few people have found out already, as the selection is super important.

I believe in what Loco said, because normal sweat sessions/video reviews and advice on skype from a poker player is something you can give and take for free if you are active in this awesome community.

On May 18 2011 16:25 locoo wrote: Show nested quote + On May 17 2011 12:50 byrnesam wrote:   On May 17 2011 12:05 Defrag wrote: I really do think 75% of current internet poker coaching could be, more or less, called a scam id guess its somewhere around 95% I agree with you, but it's not because the suck at poker, they just suck at coaching. The word coaching implies much more than just teaching about something, in this case poker, it's also motivational, a coach has to give you the means for you to improve on your own, coaching should even include knowing about your personal life and adjusting it to your play, ie. play schedules, helping setting up realistic goals, etc, all of that you can obtain from a real coach, someone who not only has to be good at the game of poker, but who has much more experience than yourself and is smart enough to be able to transmit all that wisdom to his/her coachee. I know this because i'm currently involved with a life coach, and it's really helpful in setting up your life, sure you can do this yourself, i guess... eventually... but it's much easier and less time consuming to have some help, even better profesional help. I dig it and after i'm done with having a coach myself and maybe get a diploma on a small coaching curse i would like to start coaching poker.

I did the opposite move, moved from Europe to Chicago

On May 26 2011 10:36 LemOn[5thF] wrote: What are your coaching credentials? All I can see is proof of you as a poker player (with a very small sample btw). Sorry to be a dick, I am looking for a long term coach and I will inevitably be very annoying as a few people have found out already, as the selection is super important. I believe in what Loco said, because normal sweat sessions/video reviews and advice on skype from a poker player is something you can give and take for free if you are active in this awesome community. Show nested quote + On May 18 2011 16:25 locoo wrote:   On May 17 2011 12:50 byrnesam wrote:   On May 17 2011 12:05 Defrag wrote: I really do think 75% of current internet poker coaching could be, more or less, called a scam id guess its somewhere around 95% I agree with you, but it's not because the suck at poker, they just suck at coaching. The word coaching implies much more than just teaching about something, in this case poker, it's also motivational, a coach has to give you the means for you to improve on your own, coaching should even include knowing about your personal life and adjusting it to your play, ie. play schedules, helping setting up realistic goals, etc, all of that you can obtain from a real coach, someone who not only has to be good at the game of poker, but who has much more experience than yourself and is smart enough to be able to transmit all that wisdom to his/her coachee. I know this because i'm currently involved with a life coach, and it's really helpful in setting up your life, sure you can do this yourself, i guess... eventually... but it's much easier and less time consuming to have some help, even better profesional help. I dig it and after i'm done with having a coach myself and maybe get a diploma on a small coaching curse i would like to start coaching poker.

locoo*

Lemon, this community is very close to being finished as far as hand discussion goes and who is giving out sweat sessions and video review for free???

On May 26 2011 11:00 EvilSky wrote: Lemon, this community is very close to being finished as far as hand discussion goes and who is giving out sweat sessions and video review for free???

People don't post hands, but they do get replies when they do. I don't even post in the low stakes and most of the time I get very good responses, just by posting a hand, LP is far from dead in that aspect.

And there are plenty people who sweat and discuss hands across DC and LP, I guess on your level it's kind of irrelevant I was off the radar because of uni, but I don't think that has changed in past several months.

That said there is nothing like having a proper committed coach with a professional relationship, especially when he has mentoring/coaching/motivational skills or at least tries to learn them I like you guys too much and its easy to get astray when you have a friendly LP chat <3.

On May 26 2011 10:36 LemOn[5thF] wrote: What are your coaching credentials? All I can see is proof of you as a poker player (with a very small sample btw). Sorry to be a dick, I am looking for a long term coach and I will inevitably be very annoying as a few people have found out already, as the selection is super important. I believe in what Loco said, because normal sweat sessions/video reviews and advice on skype from a poker player is something you can give and take for free if you are active in this awesome community. Show nested quote + On May 18 2011 16:25 locoo wrote:   On May 17 2011 12:50 byrnesam wrote:   On May 17 2011 12:05 Defrag wrote: I really do think 75% of current internet poker coaching could be, more or less, called a scam id guess its somewhere around 95% I agree with you, but it's not because the suck at poker, they just suck at coaching. The word coaching implies much more than just teaching about something, in this case poker, it's also motivational, a coach has to give you the means for you to improve on your own, coaching should even include knowing about your personal life and adjusting it to your play, ie. play schedules, helping setting up realistic goals, etc, all of that you can obtain from a real coach, someone who not only has to be good at the game of poker, but who has much more experience than yourself and is smart enough to be able to transmit all that wisdom to his/her coachee. I know this because i'm currently involved with a life coach, and it's really helpful in setting up your life, sure you can do this yourself, i guess... eventually... but it's much easier and less time consuming to have some help, even better profesional help. I dig it and after i'm done with having a coach myself and maybe get a diploma on a small coaching curse i would like to start coaching poker.

well there aren't really college degrees in poker coaching, so i'd just say try a session with a coach and see if you think it's worth it to you. that's a big reason i give a free first lesson. i've worked with a lot of my friends, but not really with strangers in the past. it's hard to know how somebody is without trying them. some people are great coaches and only so-so players, some are bad coaches and world class players. style differences also could make me someone a great coach for person A, but not for person B. i don't think there's much somebody can prove without an attempt.

Yeah that's true, you have to start somewhere, you offer a very good price/free start session which sounds great and it's a bargain

Personally, I am afraid of offering things I am not confident in to other people. I told this to one other guy, if I was doing coaching I'd try to read a lot about it first or get a small course or something because I know how terribly can a coach turn out when he understands theory of the game and tactics but doesn't know how to properly motivate and approach different personalities from my sports career and how to manipulate people to convince them they are the ones who come up with the new ideas. There are plenty of resources on sports psychology and coaching, teaching and mentoring, I saw quite a big section in our not so prestigious uni library, even if you just read a couple of them on your own it will be worth it. I did trust my coaches in sports, and it's hard to know what coach is good or bad as they always have more technical knowledge than you, you just go with it, but looking back some of them were terrible making basic mistakes and they were far from bringing the best from the players, despite their good tactical knowledge.

dude its wisdom. he is a poker prodigy.

this is a huge bargain.

stop complaining and take a free session and give a review kid

Hello,

I've been playing NL25 for a LONG time now, i've been really strunggling and could use your lessons. I think the price is fair and since i've heard from you from sc1 i know you're a cool person. PM me so we can start ASAP! Take care.

Can we just play heads up for 25 a pop and discuss after.

Are those 6max results? Do you play/coach nl200/nl400 FR?

do you accept stars xfers? im trying to find a coach who will and it seems most coaches now only take paypal

2.45 bb/100 = 1.2 BB/100 which is really unimpressive for someone trying to charge money to coach others. The fact that you actually posted this sample implies it's actually a good one for you, meaning your long-term winrate is likely even lower. What this sample shows is that you are really not very good at all and have no business trying to teach others. With the way games are these days, 1 BB/100 regs are actually some of the people you want at your tables because they have enough weaknesses in their game to be profitable opponents for the small portion of solid regs with higher winrates.

Sorry to sound harsh mate, but I think it's only fair to point this out about someone trying to get other people to pay them money.

So in short, people reading this blog, if you are considering coaching, do not get your lessons from this guy--the results in this post indicate he is not good enough.

Anyone up for some home games tournaments 25-100$ a pop 5k deep Heads up between plo and no limit holdem.. Payment via paypal every saturday. Pm me.

i'll trade u. u coach me in teh pokerz, i coach you in teh CoD

On May 27 2011 00:58 phexac wrote: 2.45 bb/100 = 1.2 BB/100 which is really unimpressive for someone trying to charge money to coach others. The fact that you actually posted this sample implies it's actually a good one for you, meaning your long-term winrate is likely even lower. What this sample shows is that you are really not very good at all and have no business trying to teach others. With the way games are these days, 1 BB/100 regs are actually some of the people you want at your tables because they have enough weaknesses in their game to be profitable opponents for the small portion of solid regs with higher winrates. Sorry to sound harsh mate, but I think it's only fair to point this out about someone trying to get other people to pay them money. So in short, people reading this blog, if you are considering coaching, do not get your lessons from this guy--the results in this post indicate he is not good enough.

Sounds like you hate OP for some reason, your post seems very personal and not very logical after just a quick glance.

"2.45 bb/100 = 1.2 BB/100 which is really unimpressive for someone trying to charge money to coach others"
The winrate on the sample posted is actually 2.94, but you chose the lower number to further your agreement.
That's not a fantastic winrate but that's fairly solid, he is a winning player and if he is actually good at communicating, at helping people correct their leaks and motivate themselves, there's no reason why he shouldn't be able to coach people playing lower limits.
I believe he could/should charge slightly lower prices as long as he's not very experienced at coaching though, since there's a learning curve and that he will probably make some "mistakes" as a coach first.

"The fact that you actually posted this sample implies it's actually a good one for you, meaning your long-term winrate is likely even lower"
If he wanted to deceive potential clients with a favorable sample size, don't you think he would have posted a graph starting around hand 35.000, which would have shown a more impressive winrate and a much better-looking graph? Hmmm?

I have no idea whether OP will or will not be a good coach, but he's a long-term member of this community and there's no reason that I know of why he shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt, especially since he's not charging for the first hour and letting potential customers get a feel for whether his coaching style will be helpful to them or not.

On May 27 2011 00:58 phexac wrote: 2.45 bb/100 = 1.2 BB/100 which is really unimpressive for someone trying to charge money to coach others. The fact that you actually posted this sample implies it's actually a good one for you, meaning your long-term winrate is likely even lower. What this sample shows is that you are really not very good at all and have no business trying to teach others. With the way games are these days, 1 BB/100 regs are actually some of the people you want at your tables because they have enough weaknesses in their game to be profitable opponents for the small portion of solid regs with higher winrates. Sorry to sound harsh mate, but I think it's only fair to point this out about someone trying to get other people to pay them money. So in short, people reading this blog, if you are considering coaching, do not get your lessons from this guy--the results in this post indicate he is not good enough.

sounds like pretty high standards. i'm definitely not a perfect poker player who has, like just about every other player, tilted off money, or played when i wasn't feeling my best, etc. however i don't think my 150k hand sample which includes a 8k downswing right at the beginning and still ended up at a reasonable rate is so terrible. i play 9 tables or less at a time of 6 max cash games, when usually the entire table is full of regs or sometimes with 1 weaker player. when you play almost exclusively against regs who play everyday, you can't always have a sick bb/100 like the good old days or at lower stakes (unless i bumhunt of course, but why would someone take lessons from a bumhunter over a guy playing vs higher skilled opponents who still wins?)

that said, even with the downswing at the beginning of my hands, an overall rate of over $100/hr is pretty decent in my opinion. that also doesn't include rakeback or any bonuses you'd get with player points. i also have gone to vegas every summer for the wsop, sometimes for long, sometimes for short, but every year after i turned 21, i have always played the cash games there and played in the main event.

if you don't think i'm a good enough player for you, then don't hire me. i've had some really positive coaching experiences as a student in the past, and know what helped me along the way, so i feel i have something to pass along to lower stakes guys. i have had fun coaching my friends in the past, and really am excited about trying to work with people i don't yet know. i'm even offering a free first lesson, and all my lesson costs are less than my hourly rate when i am playing poker myself. i've been really passionate about teaching in other aspects in my life, so i decided, why not do the same with poker?

On May 26 2011 20:07 k4ir0s wrote: Are those 6max results? Do you play/coach nl200/nl400 FR?

yes, all my hands are 6 max. in recent history, i've only played FR in tournaments and live cash games. you could argue that 6 max is the same as FR after all the early position people fold, but mostly it's about how to handle the nits

how about payment? stars xfers accepted?