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NL25 AA Fish overbet on coordinated board

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edzwoo   United States. Mar 09 2011 09:52. Posts 5911

Villain was running 50/5 at the time.

Submitted by : edzwoo

PokerStars Game #58910616744: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2011/03/09 8:34:29 ET
Table Summa IX 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Thiago3000 ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: FTPreg ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: urekiusa84 ($16.54 in chips)
Seat 5: edzwoo ($41.95 in chips)
Seat 6: RiverBeavers ($30.87 in chips)
Filcei will be allowed to play after the button
FTPreg: posts small blind $0.10
urekiusa84: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to edzwoo AcAd
edzwoo: raises $0.50 to $0.75
RiverBeavers: folds
Thiago3000: folds
FTPreg: folds
urekiusa84: calls $0.50

Flop (Pot : $1.60)

   9dJsQd
urekiusa84: bets $2.50
edzwoo:



Relevant hand:
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Other info: villain halfpot -> folded on some boards. He also overbet a 533 board and T65 board but didn't get looked up. Other than that he's been playing very fit or fold.

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 Last edit: 09/03/2011 09:54

whaackum   United States. Mar 09 2011 10:40. Posts 1586

he's a fish so raise and get it in if you can and be happy. also he only has 66bb's so there's no reason to fold.

The W. 

LikeASet   United States. Mar 09 2011 11:30. Posts 2113

next time 4x-5x open because he's a fish. as for flop, I'd assume the fish can have KQ/AQ/and 10x's so yeh...


Almebeast   Sweden. Mar 09 2011 11:54. Posts 797

Seems like he could do this with any Qx, get it in before another flush/straight card comes. If he was fullstacked Id just call and see what happens.

After all is said and done, more is said than done. 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Mar 09 2011 16:32. Posts 9634

should probably pokerstove it cause of this particular board texture but its most likely a raise/stackoff especc with Ad


K40Cheddar   United States. Mar 09 2011 17:11. Posts 2202

Seems pretty bad I'd just shove

+ He's only a 60bb stack

I'd expect to see Qx, JT, or Tx a lot.

GG 

SugoGosu   Korea (South). Mar 09 2011 20:14. Posts 1793

He's going to have random garbage almost all day.

Say this outloud! Why was six afraid of seven?......Because Seven Eight Nine 

edzwoo   United States. Mar 11 2011 04:43. Posts 5911

For the guys that want to stack off here, can you stove a range for me?


TilICollapse   United States. Mar 11 2011 15:55. Posts 218

Prob shove and not be too happy. I think this is a reasonable range for him. You're behind, but still can't really fold given your equity. I'm also pretty sure he's stacking off with any draws considering he overbet.

Board: 9d Qd Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.378% 42.55% 00.83% 63602 1243.50 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 56.622% 55.79% 00.83% 83401 1243.50 { 99+, AQs, ATs, KQs, KdJd, KTs, Kd9d, Q9s+, J9s+, T8s+, Td7d, 8d7d, 8d6d, 7d6d, 7d5d, 6d5d, 5d4d, AQo, ATo, KQo, KTo, Q9o+, J9o+, T8o+ }


collegesucks   United States. Mar 12 2011 00:51. Posts 5780

off the top of my head that range doesn't include a shit ton of other Q-rag hands AJo AJs A9 type hands etc etc

he plays half the hands he's dealt and this isn't the first time he did this. he prob has a pretty wide range for donk overbetting flops so id stack off and feel pretty good about it.


Nacta   Denmark. Mar 12 2011 04:43. Posts 97

So... What did he have?

FU MODS, WHY ARE YOU CHANGING MY SIG!?!! 

rS.Wisdom[9]   United States. Mar 12 2011 05:04. Posts 1288

straights and sets have to be heavily discounted here imo. most likely has a 1 pair hand with or without a straight draw. common fish line nowadays seems to be lead out (big to let them know you're serious) to find out where you're at, and call any raise because he's probably bluffing.


n0rthf4ce    United States. Mar 12 2011 06:45. Posts 8119

oop this hand is a bit more challenging but in position i dont see any other play but to call and re-eval turn.

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gunnnnnnn   Russian Federation. Mar 12 2011 11:01. Posts 5

fish can have pair of queens or straight-draw, no reason to fold


edzwoo   United States. Mar 12 2011 13:20. Posts 5911

I ended up tanking and flatting flop, flatting turn Kd and folding to brick river.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Mar 12 2011 17:38. Posts 9634

After u flat flop its probably pretty bad calling the turn Kd unless he gives u sick odds but even then im pretty sure that your implied odds are simply non existing unless the fish has a T which wont be a big % of the time
As Midian ( if i recall correctly ) said in a previous thread even the donk will start thinking about the strenght of their hand on a THAT coordinated board
Only non diamond good river would be a 9 and A for us and we ll still lose the pot a fair amount of times. K is easily the worst possible turn card


p.s. honestly do something about the idiots that register only to spam the forums to get enough posts for the freerolls this is getting extremely irritating

 Last edit: 12/03/2011 17:56

 



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