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$500 deep, rush poker, no reads.

button opens to $3, we reraise to $11 with 86o, button flats.

flop is 8c 6c Jx, we lead for $20, button flats.

turn is 2c, we lead for $50, button reraises to $200.

???

ps, this didn't happen

seems like a pretty standard fold without reads, though I hear incredible things about the rush tables.

I would have a tough time folding here without the proper info. I'd just jam it in and expect to get called by worse pretty often or suck out against the flush.

Should be a super easy fold.

Being 500bbs deep I honestly think a more interesting question would be a 6d lol.

If villain is willingly putting in that much money, you are rarely getting outplayed but beat.
Because you are both so deep he has to raise his made flush on turn even if it looks super strong to build the pot.
Swear like a pirate then fold..

Might be more interesting if you had a set and flush lands on turn.
Same betting pattern, and you call the raise because there's a fullhouse possible and it may be too exploitable if you fold a set here. River is a blank, you check and villain shoves.

Hmm..

fold pf?

poker can be easy that way!

i think the 3b pf is absolutely terrible because button should call with any 2 anyway and since it's rush you aren't even doing it for image.

i observed a hand where this situation semi happened and i didn't know how i would play it on the turn.

yea the 3b seems bad.

So are we concluding with 3betting from blinds is no good unless we want value in Rush Poker? So when button raises to steal, we should call it instead of 3betting as a blind defense?

honestly thinking about it, i'd probably flat AA pre

kids tool out dummy hard in rush why would you flat aa in the bb vs a bu steal

it feels similiar to when you only 3b AAxx in omaha and get raped by implied odds

inflated pots oop with AA where one pair hands are terrible.

tbh i would never sit 500bbs deep without like 75+ buyins

actually thats a lie cause i am right now lolol

n oone covers though

So you'd call with any hand from blind as a defense instead of 3bet.
This seems.. really bad because you neither have control nor position.

I mean, flatting AA seem really bad.
The metagame of blinds in rush poker is indeed crazy and people can shove with much more marginal hands from blinds.
Besides, I feel that most of value for AA comes preflop rather than postflop.
It really is a postflop hand than preflop hand. You should get as much money as possible with AA here imo.

I think this topic is really about defending big blind profitably without hand getting out of hand.
And it does get troublesome when you 3bet the button raise, and they flat both preflop and flop.
You are then out of position, usually don't have anything and the pot's already massive.
I do get in these situation from time to time and it is not pleasant.

nah i would 3b qk/kj pf stuff like that for a steal

tbh i would prob 3b AA too it just seems terrifying 500bbs deep so to save myself from that im just not going to get into that situation

if u flat how can u win a massive pot and if it is your standard you will have no 3betting range which isn't optimal

TELL ME ABOUT RUSH POKER IS IT EZ?

On February 09 2010 04:13 Arirang wrote: So are we concluding with 3betting from blinds is no good unless we want value in Rush Poker? So when button raises to steal, we should call it instead of 3betting as a blind defense?

i dont play any rush poker but the reason i dont like 3betting here is bcuz youre super deep and thus more likely to get flatted by the raiser and you have a garbage hand that cant flop anything.

and even when you hit one of the best flops 86o can hit, like in this hand youre in a gay spot.

doesnt mean you shouldnt 3bet bluff..just with hands that are better than 86o.