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                            k2o4   United States. Nov 16 2009 18:14. Posts 4803 |    |  |  | 
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                            YoMeR   United States. Nov 16 2009 20:08. Posts 12438 |    |  |  
                            we have tons of showdown value i don't understand wat you're trying to get value from on the turn. 
 
If you wanted 2 streets prob check turn and get values on most rivers. 
 
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                            phexac   United States. Nov 16 2009 20:32. Posts 2563 |    |  |  
                            The real question is wtf are you doing at a table with 4 shortstacks?  |  
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                            k2o4   United States. Nov 16 2009 23:03. Posts 4803 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  November 16 2009 19:32  phexac wrote: 
The real question is wtf are you doing at a table with 4 shortstacks?  |  
 
  
 
pretty sure I left pretty soon after this hand cause I realized that the table had devolved into short stack hell. 
 
Yeah, not sure wtf I was thinking by betting there. |  
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                            collegesucks   United States. Nov 16 2009 23:15. Posts 5780 |    |  |  
                            you're def. turning ur hand into a bluff. it can't really be for protection cuz if you're ahead villain typically has no more than 6 outs to suck out on the river... 
 
so i guess if you bet i guess you need to shove river =D  |  
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                            [vital]Myth      United States. Nov 17 2009 01:04. Posts 12159 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  November 16 2009 19:08  YoMeR wrote: 
we have tons of showdown value i don't understand wat you're trying to get value from on the turn. 
 
If you wanted 2 streets prob check turn and get values on most rivers. 
 
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                            Oxy   Canada. Nov 17 2009 04:05. Posts 2293 |    |  |  
                            since he raised over a limper preflop he must have a draw, snapcall turn.  |  
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                            EvilSky      Czech Republic. Nov 17 2009 13:10. Posts 8918 |    |  |  
                            No dont bet here, you will value cut yourself way more than you will get value from a draw.  |  
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                            k2o4   United States. Nov 17 2009 13:41. Posts 4803 |    |  |  
                            
 
 |   |  On  November 17 2009 03:05  Oxy wrote: 
since he raised over a limper preflop he must have a draw, snapcall turn.  |  
 
  
 
really? 
 
Yeah the more I look at this hand the more I wonder why the hell I bet that turn. |  
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