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rogier   Netherlands. Jun 24 2009 13:38. Posts 1528 | | |
betfold turn/river for 3/4th pot imo |
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bane   United States. Jun 24 2009 14:50. Posts 2379 | | |
your equity with a set isn't that bad if he flopped a flush which i don't know if you know this but that's very hard to do |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 24 2009 16:35. Posts 9634 | | |
it sucks 4 way limped pot
but i get it on the flop
as played folding the river isnt bad imo |
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morph1   Sierra Leone. Jun 24 2009 17:11. Posts 2352 | | | |
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Zalfor   United States. Jun 24 2009 18:21. Posts 2236 | | |
i agree that folding river isn't a bad idea |
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milkman   United States. Jun 24 2009 18:33. Posts 5719 | | |
i decide what ur gonna do on the flop, either ship it or dont. But dont drag it out and try not to fail on turn river. |
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personally I like to checkraise that flop....prolly get it all in on the turn if he just flats for some odd reason...don't see myself not losing all my money if he has a flush... |
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BalloonFight   United States. Jun 24 2009 23:22. Posts 1380 | | |
Really hate this spot but I'd get it in on the flop everytime. As played, folding river is basically a must. |
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Thanks for the posts so far. I am looking for a little bit more insightful analysis.
I realize that my equity is very good (34%) or so vs a flush.
In a lot of situations I do get it in on the flop because most of the time they do not have a flush. They are drawing to an Ace or a King high flush with a pair. Playing the set passively could be a mistake because I'm forced to fold if another flush card hits the turn or river unless I have an iron clad read.
I could just call the flop raise and allow another card to hit the turn and if a non flush card hits I can c/r and get it in. However he could check behind.
This particular villain is very passive however so I decided to take a different line.
I did call the river. I didn't feel that it was a fold. With his over bet and other information it looked like he was trying to buy the pot.
He flipped over 8c9s
Does anyone have anything else to offer?
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vegable   United States. Jun 25 2009 05:05. Posts 2453 | | |
flop play is fine. You should bet the turn youself because ace high flush draws may check behind. If he raises your turn bet yet again you can safely fold. as played it really isn't that horrible at all.
the important thing to take from this hand is to not get married to the absolute strength of your hand. When you get it in with a set on 3flush boards in a pot where opponent could have anything, he is rarely ever going to play any hand fast unless hes got a flush. Even 2pair hands are looking to slow down (if they're competent).
You said that the villain is very passive, so you should be doing the betting and proceed with caution when he takes over the betting. Don't slow down for no reason. Your analysis of the hand seems to be very focused on your equity versus flopped flushes when you're ignoring the rest of his range which includes nut flush draws, kings, and 2pairs. You're ahead of all of those but behind flushes, so play like it.  |
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vegable   United States. Jun 25 2009 05:06. Posts 2453 | | |
i like your aggressive flop sizing, a hefty turn bet would be even sweeter |
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I like flop and turn is debatable. River I'm calling and taking a note.
On the flop you don't want to get it in since it's a limped pot and you have a strong but not nutted hand. Turn is so small so just call and hope to fill up and/or get it to showdown one way or the other. The river is as much retarded shit, bluffs, AsXx and such that you need to call anyway. |
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Jonoman92   United States. Jun 28 2009 13:38. Posts 280 | | |
Surprised no one else has suggested it but why not raise to $1 pre-flop. I would think it's better than just limping.
The flop looks good to me but maybe re-raise the turn? And I think calling the river will be good in the long run, I kinda doubt he can have the flopped flush often. |
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genjix   China. Jun 28 2009 16:14. Posts 2677 | | |
some raise preflop, some limp. i like raising. both is ok imo |
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PoorUser   United States. Jun 28 2009 16:54. Posts 7472 | | |
flop and turn seem good
river is probably a fold usually unless hes real bad/spewy, gc tho |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 28 2009 20:14. Posts 20070 | | |
against someone whos playing 78% of hands i get this in on the flop, guys like this usually think a hand like K2o is the nuts on this flop |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Jun 28 2009 20:14. Posts 20070 | | |
against a normal opponent this is fine, but this guy is probably an enormous retard |
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SugoGosu   Korea (South). Jun 28 2009 23:25. Posts 1793 | | |
but he's hardly agressive, i might let it go |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 29 2009 15:53. Posts 9634 | | |
| | On June 25 2009 16:39 DustySwedeDude wrote:
River I'm calling and taking a note.
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this is bad imo
he ll be behind sooo much in the long run and when he d call for information he should be sure that he ll play many more hands with this dude
calling for information on micro stakes is a something unnecessary coz there are not many regulars like the limits ur playing |
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