NL25 deep -- AA 5 way pot on flop

On June 23 2009 04:43 LemOn[5thF] wrote: you get deep NL25 tables at FT? how many are there usually?

Depends on the time of day but usually 5+ - and all usually worth sitting at.

On June 23 2009 04:04 joLin wrote: why would you ever 3bet here and fold to a shove? thats probably the worst possible option.

Well, That is what I did. I made it 18 and when he made it 55 I folded. It was very obvious by that point that he had me beat. I don't think their is any way he could have AQ, he would have raised pf I assume. same with KK and QQ. So that leaves 58, 55, 88, and maybe Q8 or Q5. probably the former 3.

I feel that if I fold to the min raise I don't have enough information cause he just min raised, but a lot of time min raises do seem to show a lot of strength, especially at these limits. Further, If i Call, then how big a bet am I willling to call on the turn? I suppose maybe call, c/f would be the best play? Then, even if I hit my A my hand doesn't really improve, unless they have 58... and by calling am I just hopin for the turn to go c/c, otherwise I might as well just fold the flop, but it seems like a bad play to fold with such a weak raise... Hmmm

On June 23 2009 04:04 joLin wrote: why would you ever 3bet here and fold to a shove? thats probably the worst possible option.

And while I agree after thinking that the raise was not the best play, I think it would be an even worse play to 3bet and then call the shove, even with invested money, cuz its 36 more and i'm 98% sure I am beat.

On June 23 2009 20:23 roller17 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2009 04:04 joLin wrote: why would you ever 3bet here and fold to a shove? thats probably the worst possible option. Then, even if I hit my A my hand doesn't really improve

I agree with most of what you said, but hitting your A = nuts.

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If their set improves to a full while I improve to a set?

there will never be a situation where you both have sets and only one person has a full house in hold em

On June 23 2009 22:39 roller17 wrote: Show nested quote + I agree with most of what you said, but hitting your A = nuts. If their set improves to a full while I improve to a set?

lol you should move down if you think an A doesnt give you the nuts

he raised pot, theres nothing wrong with his preflop raise if thats his standard raise. when u bet and he raises, just pitch it. its so multiway that he probably has it

On June 23 2009 22:55 vlseph wrote: there will never be a situation where you both have sets and only one person has a full house in hold em

88v76

778

??

trips == set

On June 23 2009 22:39 roller17 wrote: If their set improves to a full while I improve to a set?

Uh. You should probably think about that one for a bit.

On June 24 2009 01:20 SpeedyJack wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2009 22:55 vlseph wrote: there will never be a situation where you both have sets and only one person has a full house in hold em 88v76 778 ??

The term "set" only applies to pocket pairs.

ive seen ppl use set for trips before.. but generally ppl mean when u have a PP

so i understand u being confused

flop is super close between call and fold, folding is prob better, its a 6 way flop in full ring, you are sooo crushed here

3-betting flop is BY FAR the worse option, dont get into a habbit of doing this unless you know villian is a retard who wil stack off with QK here

On June 24 2009 09:27 genjix wrote: ive seen ppl use set for trips before.. but generally ppl mean when u have a PP so i understand u being confused

thank you

fold

set/fullhouse comment completely retarded on my part....

But thanks for the opinions on folding vs calling/raising. I think it is agreed that this is a clear FOLD after the min raise given the preflop action.

Definitely raise to $1 pre utg. After the flop cbet and getting raised its a pretty easy muck 6 handed. Shitty folding it but you basically have no chance of being good here vs so many players

On June 24 2009 11:01 TalentedTom wrote: 3-betting flop is BY FAR the worse option, dont get into a habbit of doing this unless you know villian is a retard who wil stack off with QK here