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T8Suited   Canada. Jun 16 2009 13:15. Posts 1276

But it's a limped pot

Villain has been playing loose passive PF, maybe a fishy 80/10
Also he has made flop / turn huge overbet all-ins like this 4 or 5 times before (no showdown yet)

Submitted by : T8Suited

PokerStars Game #29399176568: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/06/15 14:41:14 ET
Table Kama II 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: sarge652 ($89.40 in chips)
Seat 2: PerkeoX ($101.60 in chips)
Seat 3: youngsizzir ($108.60 in chips)
Seat 4: BBQSquirrel ($100.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Alotofaction ($119.05 in chips)
Seat 6: deliore ($209.15 in chips)
Alotofaction: posts small blind $0.50
deliore: posts big blind $1
youngsizzir: posts small & big blinds $1.50

Holecards
Dealt to BBQSquirrel TdQd
sarge652: calls $1
PerkeoX: folds
youngsizzir: checks
BBQSquirrel: calls $1
Alotofaction: calls $0.50
deliore: checks

Flop (Pot : $4.00)

   5cJd9d
Alotofaction: checks
deliore: checks
sarge652: checks
youngsizzir: checks
BBQSquirrel: bets $5
Alotofaction: folds
deliore: folds
sarge652: raises $83.40 to $88.40 and is all-in

Villain loose passive PF, but have made this huge overbet move a fe times before (no showdowns yet); hero WTF?
1) fold
2) time call
3) call
4) snap call
?

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SfydjkLm   Belarus. Jun 16 2009 13:34. Posts 3810

*wink wink* 

Fox   . Jun 16 2009 13:47. Posts 3110

so confused right now.


Fox   . Jun 16 2009 13:47. Posts 3110

i think what's more interested is what is the hand that has you dominated the most. K8d seems to have you more dominated then JJ haha.


lebowski   Greece. Jun 16 2009 13:55. Posts 9205

as I wrote in the HH too
vs a range of nut f draws, 2pairs sets and half the overpairs you have 47,7% equity if I did this right (someone correct me otherwise).
with the money invested you have to be good like 46% for the call to be slightly good
but have in mind that the range I gave him is really tight. You can never really be too wrong with calling here

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 16/06/2009 13:58

exalted   United States. Jun 16 2009 14:10. Posts 2918

make the call OBV, no brainer

curious as to results

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sChOuA   Switzerland. Jun 16 2009 14:13. Posts 2302

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Twisted    Netherlands. Jun 16 2009 14:13. Posts 10422

snappadooo

gamboooool


ytricky   Germany. Jun 16 2009 14:21. Posts 600

this is as break even as it gets. Really nothing much to think about. I think paying the rake hurts us the moast here If one of the other guys calls we can call aswell with a strong profit, otherwise it does not matter, what we do. By the way i would have raised pf. There is extra dead money in the pot with the poster, and QTs plays very well IP.

 Last edit: 16/06/2009 14:27

Exhilarate   United States. Jun 16 2009 14:37. Posts 5453

meh, according to your reads, it's probably ok to gamble here
should've iso'd preflop though


X Benzooor   United States. Jun 16 2009 14:43. Posts 630


 
Villain has been playing loose passive PF, maybe a fishy 80/10
Also he has made flop / turn huge overbet all-ins like this 4 or 5 times before (no showdown yet)



Given this read I don't see how you can do anything but snap call - you're WAY ahead of his range.


Sicks Macks   United States. Jun 16 2009 14:51. Posts 3929

If you're not iso'ing QTs, you're not iso'ing enough.

Calling is never a big mistake and you get to see 5 cards come out which is always fun.

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MiPwnYa    Brasil. Jun 16 2009 14:54. Posts 5230

wtf is alotofaction doing at NL100 lol
snapcall this pls


Sicks Macks   United States. Jun 16 2009 14:54. Posts 3929

Board: Jd 9d 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.973% 47.97% 00.00% 14723 0.00 { QdTd }
Hand 1: 52.027% 52.03% 00.00% 15967 0.00 { AA, JJ, 99, 55, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, J9s, J9o }

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Shad   United Kingdom. Jun 16 2009 15:04. Posts 866

These kinds of retards shove all sorts of crap here, as long as he has top pairs in his range (he does) this is a snap.

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terrybunny19240   United States. Jun 16 2009 15:16. Posts 13829

lol snap

especially since you've seen him do this multiple times, your 1pair outs can easily be good too


collegesucks   United States. Jun 16 2009 16:02. Posts 5780


  On June 16 2009 13:54 Sicks Macks wrote:
Board: Jd 9d 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.973% 47.97% 00.00% 14723 0.00 { QdTd }
Hand 1: 52.027% 52.03% 00.00% 15967 0.00 { AA, JJ, 99, 55, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, J9s, J9o }



huh this range is ridic tight


Kilay   Netherlands. Jun 16 2009 16:14. Posts 1960


  On June 16 2009 15:02 collegesucks wrote:
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huh this range is ridic tight


That's pretty much the point because even then you're pretty much flipping. How folding is ever possible is beyond me, especially given reads.


traxamillion   United States. Jun 16 2009 16:39. Posts 10468

I don't even get how this is a thread. Obvious snapcall nit


edzwoo   United States. Jun 16 2009 16:45. Posts 5911

GAMBOOOOOOOL

I've folded KK pre, but I don't think I've ever folded a combo draw.


 
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