NL2000 AA herocall?

Villians running at 13/11/4%3bet/200hands haven't really seen him around so i don't know much about him..

Submitted by : AndrewSong

Full Tilt Poker Game #11344499683: Table Orchard Valley - $10/$20 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:00:19 ET - 2009/03/26
Seat 1: Five_8s ($2,818)
Seat 2: sk1952 ($0), is sitting out
Seat 3: Volker_Racho ($2,939.50)
Seat 4: NeverBluffing30 ($2,037)
Seat 5: RolandThetrault ($2,010)
Seat 6: BSS Rulez ($370)
Seat 7: Andrew Song ($2,988)
Seat 8: kontra02 ($400)
Seat 9: pay_u_off ($3,454)
RolandThetrault posts the small blind of $10
BSS Rulez posts the big blind of $20
The button is in seat #4

Holecards
Dealt to Andrew Song
Andrew Song raises to $60
pay_u_off has 15 seconds left to act
pay_u_off calls $60
Five_8s folds
Volker_Racho has 15 seconds left to act
Volker_Racho raises to $270
NeverBluffing30 folds
RolandThetrault folds
BSS Rulez folds
Andrew Song has 15 seconds left to act
Andrew Song raises to $620
pay_u_off folds
sk1952 adds $1,000
Volker_Racho has 15 seconds left to act
sk1952 has returned
Volker_Racho calls $350

Flop (Pot : $1,330.00)

   
Andrew Song checks
Volker_Racho has 15 seconds left to act
Volker_Racho bets $450
Andrew Song calls $450

Turn (Pot : $2,230.00)

   
Andrew Song checks
Volker_Racho has 15 seconds left to act
Volker_Racho bets $1,869.50, and is all in
Andrew Song has 15 seconds left to act

fold seems good. he is tight, those cards hit his range completely. end thread.

why would KK shove turn?

why not?, he has top set on a superdrawy board and the pot is already 100bb+, he says fuck it I shove

So you think he shoves Qx and bluffs? What kind of bluffs?

i dont think hell ever have Qx.. i figured its AK or KK
meh i guess not worth discussing.
"Fuck it i have top set all in" seems good

On March 26 2009 18:47 Zanjong wrote: So you think he shoves Qx and bluffs? What kind of bluffs?

he prob shoves clubs

seriously if he has KK, just take the 2 outer like a man, u 4bet, well played, I don't see why he would go setmining with KK there, he'd prob get it in pre flop, unless ur image sucks too much for dat

I like ur flop check,but why don't you go AI after that?If he has set-well it is 4-bet pot so w/e.U let him bluff so now just get it in

yeah if you check flop it should be to check jam imo, esp when he bets 450 only

On March 27 2009 11:33 RaSZi wrote: with these stacksizes I don't like ur 4-bet size that much, I think if you make 750 he will shove more and call the hands he would call with this sizing anyway. And yeah checkshove

I agree

thanks for the advice every1

FYL

that board can't get any worse for a 4bet pot in 9 handed game.

As played I fold turn, but I would play flop differently. I think I like check/push the best or small bet like 1/3 of the pot (didnt check stack sizes but in case if it is reasonable) to induce stupid moves and get it in. If he calls well then it sucks and I think u have to fold turn.

On March 26 2009 20:03 PoorUser wrote: yeah if you check flop it should be to check jam imo, esp when he bets 450 only

u 4 bet, the money goes on the flop...

as played u gotta fold turn imo, but you shouldnt be in this spot.

Like people said if you thought his range on the flop was AK,KK why didnt you shove? He also has KQs,AQcc too tho so on the turn you probably arent getting enough odds to call.

cuz ak folds to shove and i would rather take a line to get all of his monies when im ahead. he will never have aq/kq for sure...

if he's calling your 4bet with AK, he's certainly not folding to a shove on this flop

why cant he have AQ clubs and KQs ??

On March 28 2009 18:08 EvilSky wrote: why cant he have AQ clubs and KQs ??

because this is full ring... hes 3-betting our UTG with KQs and calling a 4-bet?

On March 28 2009 12:27 AndrewSong wrote: cuz ak folds to shove and i would rather take a line to get all of his monies when im ahead. he will never have aq/kq for sure...

so he calls a 4-bet with AK to re-evaluate after flopping TPTK?