precarious call of flop shove

Submitted by : genjix

PokerStars Game #21898366291: Tournament #119451000, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/11/09 16:30:34 ET
Table '119451000 1' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 3: Hero (2715 in chips)
Seat 4: frogman2k (2285 in chips)
Seat 5: stiffler1979 (1870 in chips)
Seat 7: fysheater (1225 in chips)
Seat 8: Chr-Tank (4400 in chips)
Seat 9: matthiasmle (1330 in chips)
Seat 10: macs150 (1175 in chips)
macs150: posts small blind 100
Hero : posts big blind 200
frogman2k said, "nh genji"

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero
frogman2k: folds
stiffler1979: calls 200
fysheater: folds
Chr-Tank: folds
matthiasmle: folds
macs150: calls 100
Hero said, "i only shove good hands"
Hero : checks

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $600.00)

   
Hero said, "unlike donks"
frogman2k said, "usually they r good until the river comes"
Hero said, "yep )"
macs150 is connected
macs150: bets 975 and is all-in
Hero : calls 975
stiffler1979: folds

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2,550.00)

   

River (Pot : $2,550.00)

   

Showdown
macs150: shows (a pair of Jacks)
Hero : shows (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
Hero collected 2550 from pot

Summary
Total pot 2550 | Rake 0
Board  
Seat 3: Hero (big blind) showed and won (2550) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 4: frogman2k folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: stiffler1979 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: fysheater folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Chr-Tank folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: matthiasmle (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: macs150 (small blind) showed and lost with a pair of Jacks

are you really doing this again?

Would you like a gold medal maybe some delicious treats

How much do u charge per hour for coaching???

you suck donkeyballs

If you're trolling, ok gj. If not, don't post results to hands if you want serious advice. You've posted like three straight hands where you detail your thought process, show that you were about right, and then ask us if we think that you were correct in doing a move that turned out to be correct when we have no info on you or villain, and haven't played a $3 sng in quite some time.

A good post should cut off the hand history at the point you want to discuss so maybe:

villain shoves
hero say "fml, wat"

or something like that. In addition you should try to include reads or stats on the villain, and insight into how you are perceived at the table. You'll get much more out of posting that way.

On another note, I think you should stop playing SNGs and move to 6 Max cash games at FTP. NL25 is super soft if you play US peak hours. You've got what it takes.

According to poker calculator I was 43% to win, so I made a losing play this time. There's also one player to act behind me who could have a Jack. If you look at my hands I've posted, half of them I've lost so I don't see why you're all being dicks. I'm asking for advice.

No you didn't make a losing play, because you put in less than 43% of the money (barely, right? I'm not opening a calculator for this). So it was cEV+. But the point is, it doesn't matter what he had, it matters what he can have in that spot (lots of shit, this being a $3 tourney, there being dead money, etc). So the question you want is whether you do well against the range of hands he makes that play with. My guess is no, but SNGs aren't my thing. And also, I wasn't being a dick, I was showing you to structure a strat post to ask for advice. And no else was being a dick either, they were being hilarious.

i think the funniest part is your chat, where you write

"Hero said, "i only shove good hands"
Hero said, "unlike donks""

while one of (frankly im inclined to say the main), the defining qualities of a good turbo sitngo player is that he will not only shove good hands
as for hand advice, the guy has less than 5 bb after posting and can be pushing virtually anything. i wouldnt be shocked to find him have T2o here, wouldnt be surprised to see j9 either tho. but either way, call.

you suck

retarded

On November 10 2008 20:27 Liquid`Drone wrote: i think the funniest part is your chat, where you write "Hero said, "i only shove good hands" Hero said, "unlike donks"" while one of (frankly im inclined to say the main), the defining qualities of a good turbo sitngo player is that he will not only shove good hands

LOL! Dude! I'm crafting my image at the table as a tight player! I don't want to get called ever. I do this often.

On November 10 2008 18:52 Sicks Macks wrote: No you didn't make a losing play, because you put in less than 43% of the money (barely, right? I'm not opening a calculator for this). So it was cEV+. But the point is, it doesn't matter what he had, it matters what he can have in that spot (lots of shit, this being a $3 tourney, there being dead money, etc).

ok. true, pot odds is like 38%. In sng's I don't usually factor in implied odds (like if he's holding junk .etc) because conserving my chips is important. One thing I do is assume no one ever bluffs. Also there's one person to act behind me, although I doubt he'd go all in with TP against 2 people tangoing when he's put very little money in.

And no else was being a dick either, they were being hilarious.

I see all that humour.

This hand looks 90% like a brag post.

Therefore it's -EV to post it here.

P.s. I only shove good hands equals this guy is full of shit 96.6585635% of the time