200nl AKo 300bb deep

It's 3 handed, villain seems to be a good competent player running at about 22/19.
There's a bunch of problems on this turn. If I bet/call I'm basically never getting it in ahead, however, I don't think I can ever check. Reason is I would be bluffing this turn w/ 100% of my range, and AcKh is basically near the very top of my range. I'm not particularly sure what he's capable of, but expect him to be somewhat tricky

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (3 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($595.75)
SB ($201)
Hero ($887.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Kh, Ac.
Button raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero raises to $27, Button calls $20.

Flop: ($55) 8c, 2c, Jc (2 players)
Hero bets $42, Button calls $42.

Turn: ($139) As (2 players)
Hero ....

i think checking and calling is fine here... you're both deep and you're oop... no use building the pot with a hand you aren't willing to commit with... so taking a passive line is ok, i think... would hate to bet again here and risk being raised, and we have the Ac so that would be a really really tough spot...

huh
u have the nuts

Bet all day, hes not flatting monsters on this flop 3bi deep, and you turn the nuts on a drawy board.

On July 15 2008 03:34 MARSHALL28 wrote: I'm not particularly sure what he's capable of, but expect him to be somewhat tricky

On July 15 2008 04:31 sawseech wrote: huh u have the nuts

its not that simple, im 300bb deep and im out of position. if i bet and get raised it could be REALLY bad

cant you use the hand converter ffs.... ?

i dont worry excessively about what could happen

if you bet and get raised you call obv.

i against nits i'll take an aggressive line until i get raised.

against a more aggressive opponent i probably still do the same.

Bet/fold, I doubt he runs a semibluff/bluff on this card , if he raises ur toast just fold to a raise on this street. If he calls same on river, b/f

On July 15 2008 07:13 Baal wrote: cant you use the hand converter ffs.... ?

yeah seriously, just use the hand converter here and stop spitting in nazgul's face

On July 15 2008 05:08 EvilSky wrote: Bet all day, hes not flatting monsters on this flop 3bi deep, and you turn the nuts on a drawy board.

I disagree, people do flat sets on drawy boards. At least against me.
It tilts me every time.

I don´t mind check this deep, because I don´t believe he calls your turn bet with worse hand.

On July 15 2008 15:08 traktor wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2008 05:08 EvilSky wrote: Bet all day, hes not flatting monsters on this flop 3bi deep, and you turn the nuts on a drawy board. I disagree, people do flat sets on drawy boards. At least against me. It tilts me every time. I don´t mind check this deep, because I don´t believe he calls your turn bet with worse hand.

He should consider it though, because ur firing with ur entire range.

On July 15 2008 15:18 Fraser wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2008 15:08 traktor wrote:   On July 15 2008 05:08 EvilSky wrote: Bet all day, hes not flatting monsters on this flop 3bi deep, and you turn the nuts on a drawy board. I disagree, people do flat sets on drawy boards. At least against me. It tilts me every time. I don´t mind check this deep, because I don´t believe he calls your turn bet with worse hand. He should consider it though, because ur firing with ur entire range.

exactly what i feel the problem to be in this spot.

wtf this is such an ez double barrel. he has to think that ur firing ur entire range here so firing with the hand rather than taking a pot control line is far superior

On July 15 2008 15:24 FrinkX wrote: wtf this is such an ez double barrel. he has to think that ur firing ur entire range here so firing with the hand rather than taking a pot control line is far superior

How is he supposed to get 3bi in if he flats a set on this flop ? Im not saying he couldnt have, but like said before he calls with so many other hands that not betting just because your deep is too weak and loses value imo.

ez barrel hes still gonna peel with any pair that has a club

Villian will never flatcall a non nut flush on the flop this deep and why on earth would he ever flat a set on flop and raise it on the river?