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Ket   United Kingdom. May 07 2008 08:38. Posts 8665 | | |
I remember this was a topic a very long time ago on LP, but games have changed a lot since back then and plus there are a lot of players on LP now that are regular multitablers at 100nl++ that there weren't before, so I think it's ok to rehash this discussion.
I'm interested to know, how big is the variance in the games you play? To take a look go to pokertracker, 'session notes' tab and click "more detail" and quote the number you get for "Standard Deviation/100 hands".
Reply with the following:
1. stakes you played in the sample and what gametype (eg nlh plo hu fr 6max)
2. number of hands (plz dont bother posting without large samples btw)
3. Your standard deviation/100 hands
Also anything you happen to know about what typical values are and whats good.
For me,
1. 5/10 to 25/50 6max/hu
2. 156,283
3. 57.6 big bets/100 hands |
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Joe   Czech Republic. May 07 2008 08:55. Posts 5987 | | |
Where can i find it in PT3? |
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Catul   France. May 07 2008 08:55. Posts 1460 | | |
| On May 07 2008 07:38 Ket wrote:
2. number of hands (plz dont bother posting without large samples btw) |
It converges much faster than winrate. Even moderate sample sizes will do.
I use HEM now, and I don't think it has this value anywhere. I'll see if I can come up with it by hand though. |
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BigBird   Bulgaria. May 07 2008 09:03. Posts 168 | | |
1. 0.5/1 to 1/2
2. 70k
3. 41bb/100 |
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beethreekay   Ireland. May 07 2008 09:10. Posts 147 | | |
1. 100NL 6-max
2. 82k
3. 53.6bb/100 |
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jase   Australia. May 07 2008 09:15. Posts 1604 | | |
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Ket   United Kingdom. May 07 2008 09:19. Posts 8665 | | |
| On May 07 2008 08:03 BigBird wrote:
1. 0.5/1 to 1/2
2. 70k
3. 41bb/100 |
full ring? |
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Catul   France. May 07 2008 09:20. Posts 1460 | | |
Ok, got it from my HEM db (if anyone else uses HEM and wants it, I can explain how).
1. 0.5/1 nl 6max
2. 33k
3. 45.5 PTBB for 100 hands
1. 1/2 nl 6max
2. 6k
3. 42.1 PTBB for 100 hands
PS : your 6max and HU SD should be way different Ket, maybe you (c|sh)ould split them ? |
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Ket   United Kingdom. May 07 2008 09:27. Posts 8665 | | |
good idea
EDIT: damn, pt wont really let me do that using all my sample because you cant automatically filter sessions by how many-handed it was, and a decent amount of my headsup is played on 6max/fr tables which screws up both my 6max stdev and headsup stdev.
But anyway looks like im 85bb/100 stdev for headsup over my last 9k headsup hands (played on headsup tables). Is this an okay sample, exactly how quickly does stdev converge?
55bb/100 stdev over last 12k 6max hands.
64bb/100 stdev over 20k 6max plo hands. more variance in my hu nlhe game than in 6max plo!?!?!?!? i do play pretty tight/straightforward in plo though, which sounds like the opposite of my hu nlhe game |
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mikyor   United States. May 07 2008 09:30. Posts 590 | | |
1. .25/.50 NL FR
2. 52k
3. 28 bb/100 |
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lebowski   Greece. May 07 2008 09:31. Posts 9205 | | |
0,5/1 nl 6max
85k hands
41 ptbb/100 |
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rogier   Netherlands. May 07 2008 09:32. Posts 1528 | | |
100nl fr
25k sample (yeah sorry, only have db from last month)
41.5 big bets/100 |
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Catul   France. May 07 2008 09:39. Posts 1460 | | |
Here's the HEM query (run it in pgadmin for example) :
| SELECT gametypedescription as stakes,COUNT(*) as hands,100*AVG(netamountwon)/(2*bigblind) as winrate,10*STDDEV(netamountwon)/(2*bigblind) as SD
FROM playerhandscashkeycolumns,gametypes
WHERE player_id in (SELECT player_id FROM players WHERE playername ILIKE '**********YouShouldPutYourScreenNameHere************')
AND gametypes.gametype_id=playerhandscashkeycolumns.gametype_id
GROUP BY gametypes.gametypedescription,gametypes.bigblind |
Don't forget to put your screenname in the query. |
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ggplz   Sweden. May 07 2008 09:42. Posts 16784 | | |
1. 1/2 a little 2/4 6max pokerstars
2. 48k hands unfortunately the rest of my stats are on my old computer
3. 56 big bets/100 hands |
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Ket   United Kingdom. May 07 2008 09:43. Posts 8665 | | |
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Pulda   Czech Republic. May 07 2008 09:47. Posts 446 | | |
DB from last month...
NL50 FR
23k hands
37 ptbb/100
NL100 FR
31k hands
31.1 ptbb/100
Also played some NL200, but not many hands there.
(this is 24-tabling on PS btw) |
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ToT)MidiaN(   United Kingdom. May 07 2008 09:51. Posts 5070 | | |
6max:
1. $4/$8 through $50/$100 (very few hands above $10/$20 though)
2. 74,525
3. 59.3366 ptbb/100
hu:
1. $0.25/$0.5 through $5/$10 (most at $1/$2, $2/$4)
2. 29,014
3. 75.1388 ptbb/100
despite that "variance" my winrate over those samples is 8.54ptbb/100 in 6max and 19.02ptbb/100 in HU |
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MysticJoey   Poland. May 07 2008 09:52. Posts 1430 | | |
1. nl100 6max
2. 13k
3. 64 bigbets/100 |
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Catul   France. May 07 2008 10:01. Posts 1460 | | |
| On May 07 2008 08:51 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
6max:
1. $4/$8 through $50/$100 (very few hands above $10/$20 though)
2. 74,525
3. 59.3366 ptbb/100
hu:
1. $0.25/$0.5 through $5/$10 (most at $1/$2, $2/$4)
2. 29,014
3. 75.1388 ptbb/100
despite that "variance" my winrate over those samples is 8.54ptbb/100 in 6max and 19.02ptbb/100 in HU |
Over that sample size, there's 99% confidence you're over 3ptbb/100 in 6max and over 7.5ptbb/100 in HU. At 95% confidence, that is >4ptbb/100 in 6max and >10ptbb/100 in HU. Those big numbers don't look that scary |
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neveragain   Canada. May 07 2008 10:05. Posts 188 | | |
NL50 & NL100 FR
186k hands
33.6 PTBB/100
So what is the significance of this number? |
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