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I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
this game is ridiculously soft wtf... how can that idiot FLAT call a micro-bet from hellmuth FFS!!!
AQ limping
Todd is the biggest passive fish ever.. probably matusow knows that if Todd raises he polarizes his range to bluff or monster because he never raises a draw nor no-nuts hand so 99 is as good as AT
On September 04 2007 01:50 twotimesopt wrote:
how the fuck to i watch this thing, there's like 1343 files?
right click on any of those .rar files, extract here and voila. if u dont have winrar u need to get it
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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alphablend United States. Sep 04 2007 12:08. Posts 2424
On September 04 2007 01:50 twotimesopt wrote:
how the fuck to i watch this thing, there's like 1343 files?
right click on any of those .rar files, extract here and voila. if u dont have winrar u need to get it
Do yourself a favor don't get winrar get 7zip from sourceforge.net it has all the same functionality without all the crap. It is freeware and open source.
On September 04 2007 01:50 twotimesopt wrote:
how the fuck to i watch this thing, there's like 1343 files?
right click on any of those .rar files, extract here and voila. if u dont have winrar u need to get it
Do yourself a favor don't get winrar get 7zip from sourceforge.net it has all the same functionality without all the crap. It is freeware and open source.
good idea, forgot about that
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
so?... there is no advantage for it being open source if the original program is pretty good...
if it were OpenOffice vs Microsoft Office then i agree, office is now an invasive massive slow ass program... open office being an open source ownz.. .but Winrar havent done that yet.
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alphablend United States. Sep 04 2007 23:38. Posts 2424
On September 04 2007 19:41 Baal wrote:
why is it better... what is Winrar's bullshit?
i think its quite a clean small functional program
You think, but you dont know because you cant see the source. That should be motivation enough not to run it.
ExtractNow FTW - free and easy... (hang on that's how i like my women too)
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Yugless United States. Sep 05 2007 00:22. Posts 7174
im so sick of the bad play on this show, i'm convinced todd brunson plays badly on purpose to build a fishy image for other games, same goes for sammy, daniel and eli
On September 04 2007 23:22 Yugless wrote:
im so sick of the bad play on this show, i'm convinced todd brunson plays badly on purpose to build a fishy image, same goes for sammy, daniel and eli
im actually kinda sure Todd does that. He even buys-in for short. lol, son of a bitch. I really wanna hear Raszi's oppinion on this.
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CrownRoyal United States. Sep 05 2007 00:48. Posts 11386
On September 04 2007 23:22 Yugless wrote:
im so sick of the bad play on this show, i'm convinced todd brunson plays badly on purpose to build a fishy image for other games, same goes for sammy, daniel and eli
woooord woman... i were commenting to Freak that Todd Brunson is a passive fish, we got into a huge argument about it
sorry for 3rd post, that brandon guy is SO bad, when phil asked him what did he put him on on the 99 vs 76 hand he looked like he didnt even think of ranges, and not raising that river wtf... he looked like a super newbie in my eyes.
by midnight pokerbay usually has it,and downloads fast
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
I was pretty surprised when silent mike kept playing after Hellmuth said "I know you have JT and you are going to call" that would made me a bit nervous.
I was pretty surprised when silent mike kept playing after Hellmuth said "I know you have JT and you are going to call" that would made me a bit nervous.
I think once he says that I'ld deffiently call down against those big bets. Why bet so much if he knows your weak and he has a hand? Further he allmost has to bluff if he puts you on jack ten and has nothing
I was pretty surprised when silent mike kept playing after Hellmuth said "I know you have JT and you are going to call" that would made me a bit nervous.
I think once he says that I'ld deffiently call down against those big bets. Why bet so much if he knows your weak and he has a hand? Further he allmost has to bluff if he puts you on jack ten and has nothing
Hellmuth was an idiot "im going to have small on the river... he also says he has JT ... river falls and saying he thinks he is weak and saying he was going to valubet small he bets HUGE... ROFL snap call this fish
Also Matusow is a fucking idiot "i dont have a fullhouse"... "i dont have a straight" "i dont have aces up".... well thank you asshole for letting me know so easily that you are infact NOT bluffing because nobody bluffing would say that
I was pretty surprised when silent mike kept playing after Hellmuth said "I know you have JT and you are going to call" that would made me a bit nervous.
I think once he says that I'ld deffiently call down against those big bets. Why bet so much if he knows your weak and he has a hand? Further he allmost has to bluff if he puts you on jack ten and has nothing
I was pretty surprised when silent mike kept playing after Hellmuth said "I know you have JT and you are going to call" that would made me a bit nervous.
I think once he says that I'ld deffiently call down against those big bets. Why bet so much if he knows your weak and he has a hand? Further he allmost has to bluff if he puts you on jack ten and has nothing
I like this new lineup better, only they should kick out safai and bring the mouth instead
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sOah United Kingdom. Sep 18 2007 04:03. Posts 4527
I would love to smack Bob Safai upside the head
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eekmice United States. Sep 18 2007 04:12. Posts 282
LOL@ going all in with KJ. what a fucking douche
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Ballad126 United States. Sep 18 2007 04:21. Posts 932
Does anyone else think Baxter has played the best so far?
Baxter or Ferguson
Mimi Tran, Bob Stupak, Johnny Chan, Barry Greenstein, Chris Ferguson, Brian Townsend, Paul Wasicka, Phil Ivey and Baxter are all players that have stood out to me as players that held a significant edge at the HSP table
I might be forgetting a few people but almost everybody else just seemed to play like complete trash by PokerStars standards
why bother with torrents then u can watch all on pokertube with nice quality
Never give up.
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TianYuan Korea (South). Sep 18 2007 05:43. Posts 6817
On September 18 2007 03:21 JojackLS wrote:
Does anyone else think Baxter has played the best so far?
Baxter or Ferguson
Mimi Tran, Bob Stupak, Johnny Chan, Barry Greenstein, Chris Ferguson, Brian Townsend, Paul Wasicka, Phil Ivey and Baxter are all players that have stood out to me as players that held a significant edge at the HSP table
I might be forgetting a few people but almost everybody else just seemed to play like complete trash by PokerStars standards
I agree, he's seemed like the best player for sure.
Hm.. Off-suite socks..
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Silver_nz New Zealand. Sep 18 2007 05:44. Posts 5647
matusow seems like the worst player so far, he has his zen moments, but overall he seems like a spewtard
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Am I the only one who finds the announcers funny, especially Gabe Kaplan? Sure they can be a bit korney at times but I really like their humor and casualness. I laughed incredibly hard when one of the security guards came to bring some chips to a player and Kaplan said something along the lines of "And now we have the security guard coming to join the table. He saw people raising with 57o and 29o and wants some easy money. Move over boys!!"
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alphablend United States. Sep 22 2007 01:07. Posts 2424
i find gabe entertaining, but aj just kind of "plays along" with gabe.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
alphablend United States. Sep 25 2007 01:28. Posts 2424
Hey baal you know where I can get that startrek photo of sammy farha where he wanted to flip for battleships? I nearly cried when I saw that it was so funny. But now I cant find it anywheres oh noes
let me get this he spews so many pots he enters, plays wreckless but is scared of getting his money in 70/30 with jj vs a10
his 'gentleman/baller/larger than life' image makes up for it though
always fun to watch a baller say 'raisy daisy' with a smile on his face
- chlopaki w mercedesie nie beda sie pierdolic - AND ALL U WACK POKER PLAYERS TRYING TO PUT A BAD BEAT ON ME JUST REMEMBER THAT I HATE YOU AND THAT I CANT STAND YOU
On September 25 2007 04:33 WiseAdvice wrote:
let me get this he spews so many pots he enters, plays wreckless but is scared of getting his money in 70/30 with jj vs a10
his 'gentleman/baller/larger than life' image makes up for it though
always fun to watch a baller say 'raisy daisy' with a smile on his face
how is he scared? he only ran it twice wich is neutrally EV
number one, running it twice is stupid when u have the best hand, because all he has to do is hit 1 ace on 10 cards to come to break even.
also by 'scared' i meant he enters raised pots with hands like k5 or j7 etc, or makes bad calls or basically played like an idiot spewing money after money, but then when he has a chance to win a huge pot as a 70/30 fave, he begins talking deals, etc.
i love sammy, but running it twice jj vs a10 isnt too smart imo
- chlopaki w mercedesie nie beda sie pierdolic - AND ALL U WACK POKER PLAYERS TRYING TO PUT A BAD BEAT ON ME JUST REMEMBER THAT I HATE YOU AND THAT I CANT STAND YOU
On September 25 2007 04:43 WiseAdvice wrote:
number one, running it twice is stupid when u have the best hand, because all he has to do is hit 1 ace on 10 cards to come to break even.
also by 'scared' i meant he enters raised pots with hands like k5 or j7 etc, or makes bad calls or basically played like an idiot spewing money after money, but then when he has a chance to win a huge pot as a 70/30 fave, he begins talking deals, etc.
i love sammy, but running it twice jj vs a10 isnt too smart imo
hehe this has been discussed before so i know its hard to get the first time, but think about it.
Running it twice as a winner or as a looser is absolutely netraully EV, actually i WISH i could run it twice every single time im all-in... why? because it decreases variance.
If you run JJ vs AT twice, on 1000 different times, you will make the exact same money ammount that if you run it once 1000 times.
think about it before u reply cuz im positive im right this has been a big discussion in earlier.
as mike matusow would say 'u guys are a bunch of idiots'
wtf i expected more intelligence from u mr.baal u dont play 25nl anymore dont convince urself that jj vs a10 is a good idea to run it twice, u damn as hell know online u would salivate see him drawing to 3 aces, and with all due respect, when u are ahead in the hand like this what are u playing for? u have 70% to win all the money, where as all he has to do is hit an ace 1 out of 10 cards and neutralized, just very very bad poker mind imo i would never expect u to endorse this concept in jj vs a10.
no joke
- chlopaki w mercedesie nie beda sie pierdolic - AND ALL U WACK POKER PLAYERS TRYING TO PUT A BAD BEAT ON ME JUST REMEMBER THAT I HATE YOU AND THAT I CANT STAND YOU
Did you even read my post dude?... did u see the quick math i did?
its 70% vs 30%... what if Phil would tell you ok buddy... ill give you exactly 70% of my chips but we wont run it...
What would you do? if you say NO then freaking play roulette, because i tought we poker players looked for EV+... and if we win 70% of his chips without running it that is absolutely the same than running it but with less variance.
If you say yes.. then smart man, you know that in the long run you arent winning his stack... you are only winning 70% of it, wich is esentially what he is offering you.
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Running it twice works exactly the same... basically ALL you do is increase the TIE odds... your winning odds go down but also your loosing ones does making it exactly NEUTRAL EV... its meaningless run it twice or once.
I would run it twice if i had JJ
I would run it twice if i had ATo
Think about it before you post, and then think about it again cuz im right , im off to bed now but please think about it before posting cuz ur going to make a fool out of yourself and i know you will cuz i did when i were in your position long time ago in another HSP season.
well obviously if u 70/30 favorite taking 70% of the pot is exactly the same so actually i would take 70% of the money and no flop, (unless i dont like him then i wanna gamble for all his chips)
so yes i would take 70% of the money being a 70/30 favorite.
now ur second part. forget poker for a second say u are putting 100 piece of paper in a basket, 70 of them are blue and 30 of them are red. you pick out 1 paper, if u hit blue you win all the money if u hit red u lose all the money. wtf would a decent intelligent mind ever want to 'run it twice'
seriously baal i know ur a 200nl grinder trying to be a 400nl loose-agressive-monster-boss but wtf man i mean u gotta be stupid to run it twice. U play poker cant be scared, u have 1 shot to win all the money 70/30
seriously online u playing 400nl for example and u have jj vs a10 allin preflop u know as well u take ur 70% favorite shot once u win u win u lose u lose instead of this chickening out and running it twice and at the same time losing your strangle hold on the hand.
dono i normally dont debate much but if u have jj vs a10 agreeing to run it twice is stupid. U got all the money in 70/30 u win why be a pussy and try to get a draw, if ur scared of a buyin then u gotta play at the penny games.
advanced bankroll managment course 102 would help
gl yo and keep the peace
- chlopaki w mercedesie nie beda sie pierdolic - AND ALL U WACK POKER PLAYERS TRYING TO PUT A BAD BEAT ON ME JUST REMEMBER THAT I HATE YOU AND THAT I CANT STAND YOU
On September 25 2007 04:52 wolfheart wrote:
its was boring show just pure gambling no reads no good hands no good laydowns
just game was soft as hell and booring
i think u are missing the point of hsp.
ur not there so much as to 'learn' though ill give credit that u CAN pick up tricks and tips and something, etc but 200nl+++ life-long winners treat it more as an 'entertainment' show and love to watch the ballers just have fun, laugh hard, talk deep, joke around and gamble for thousands of dollars like its pennies because that is what we are all striving for (serious gamers at least)
and the commentators rock! if i ever meet aj benza or gabe kaplan im getting my photo with them autographed even if it mean i have to spend 20$ at the local store for a 1-time-use-camera.
i would also get my shirt autographed with a permanent marker while im at it lol
- chlopaki w mercedesie nie beda sie pierdolic - AND ALL U WACK POKER PLAYERS TRYING TO PUT A BAD BEAT ON ME JUST REMEMBER THAT I HATE YOU AND THAT I CANT STAND YOU
mike baxster is cool but they should get rid of that muslim amateur i forget his name he is soooo boring, waste of tv space, better to get some highstakes internet pro instead of him.
i mean really i hate him
- chlopaki w mercedesie nie beda sie pierdolic - AND ALL U WACK POKER PLAYERS TRYING TO PUT A BAD BEAT ON ME JUST REMEMBER THAT I HATE YOU AND THAT I CANT STAND YOU
Equity: 7/10x7/10 because u need to win twice in a row, barely 50% chance to win. Villain has 3/10x3/10 = barely 10% chance to win, leaves 40% for a tie.
Now let's say you run this for a whole bi of 1000 dollars:
ev= 70%x1000-30%x1000= +400$ if u run once
ev=50%x1000-10%x1000= +400$ if u run twice
Ev is the exactly the same if u run it once or twice, just decreases variance.
straight up i still stand 100% with mike matusow on the 'you guys are a bunch of idiots'
im a little bit too drunk read all ur numbers mr sheitan from canada, and im responding for the last time before i retire for the night but i hope ur not trying to convince me that running it once 70/30 is the exact same thing as running it twice, where u basically lose some value to in a way at least have a 'safe' draw
seriously now i know why mr.rekrul says 'fucking grinder nit losers'
i am 21 year old ive been around some more corners than some of u 18-19 yrs old penny grinders but man its really itching my curiosity and i will actually speak to a mathematic friend of mine to get the final knowledge of this
i still cant believe kids thinking 70/30 run it 1 time win/lose whatever = run it twice
running it twice from a philosophical perspective sound like a hustling scam from the player holding the weaker hand to get some type of 'insurance claim'
or whatever but ppl thinking its the same is just like witches few hundred of years ago, that kind of thinking needs to be burned at the stake
weird hope im right though
- chlopaki w mercedesie nie beda sie pierdolic - AND ALL U WACK POKER PLAYERS TRYING TO PUT A BAD BEAT ON ME JUST REMEMBER THAT I HATE YOU AND THAT I CANT STAND YOU
On September 25 2007 06:28 n1ck wrote:
any of u guys got a pokerbay invitation u dont need? or maybe a non-pokerbay link for the episode? thanks in advance
Wow relax WiseAdvice, i'm just doing the math and i don't think i do it wrong, you can ask your friend about it he'll prolly come up to the same conclusions. And btw why in the world would hsp players accept to run it twice if it decreases their equity ? that would be fucking stupid.
btw i just turned 30. Have a good nigh Mr aggro drunk.
On September 25 2007 07:14 Sheitan wrote:
Wow relax WiseAdvice, i'm just doing the math and i don't think i do it wrong, you can ask your friend about it he'll prolly come up to the same conclusions. And btw why in the world would hsp players accept to run it twice if it decreases their equity ? that would be fucking stupid.
btw i just turned 30.
wait wait pal, i lied about retiring for the night im listening to 'prussian blue - 'ill bleed for your' (and thats just for fun)
but yo seriously last post of the night but man just answer this straight up are u trying to convince me that
jj vs a10 where u are 70/30 favorite = same expectation money wise as running it twice
if u think like this u should be burned at the stake like witch unless u 'confess' and realize its foolish to agree to run it twice jj vs a10
anyways wow cool just keep ur timid style.
long run no way its better to run it twice jj vs a10
we living on planet mars?? wow
gl yo see u at the tables
i come in peace just im wondering ppl actually believe that this is 50/50?? guess its 50/50 that world is flat lol silly kids ==; hope im right lol
- chlopaki w mercedesie nie beda sie pierdolic - AND ALL U WACK POKER PLAYERS TRYING TO PUT A BAD BEAT ON ME JUST REMEMBER THAT I HATE YOU AND THAT I CANT STAND YOU
Rofl seriously wtf ? show me where im wrong, be my guest. And like i told you why in the world would they accept to run it twice if they decrease their equity, please explain this to me.
It's hard to admit but you're fucking wrong. Period, admit it and try to understand why.
Calculating it sound like a bitch if they would use diferent deck (whit cards already given to players removed) then it would obviously be 0 EV. The problem I have is that for example you got one common cards whit A, then it is less likely to win the second (difference is not small from ~30% to ~20%). Sure he can get J but it is less likely since there is 3A and 2J left.
While wast majority of flops where JJ wins, reduce no cards. There is also 5 cards less in deck but they don't change as much, right?
The problem summary two possibilities: common cards make JJ win (1), make AT win (2)
1 - most common cards change nothing in second run
2 - most common cards chances of second win significantly.
1 - It is very unlikely to win by outdrawing AT whit J after it hits.
2 - It is very unlikely to win whithout A.
Pokerstove:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 18.917% 17.37% 01.55% 238122 21186.17 { AhTd }
Hand 1: 71.433% 71.33% 00.11% 977723 1445.67 { JcJs }
Hand 2: 09.650% 08.10% 01.55% 111091 21186.17 { As2c }
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.738% 28.59% 00.15% 489544 2544.50 { AhTd }
Hand 1: 71.262% 71.11% 00.15% 1217671 2544.50 { JcJs }
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.704% 29.60% 00.10% 405793 1369.00 { AhTd }
Hand 1: 65.159% 64.25% 00.91% 880689 12482.50 { JcJs }
Hand 2: 05.137% 04.23% 00.91% 57938 12482.50 { Jd2s }
Sure there is more to it, but that is pretty much what makes me hard to accept that running twice change nothing.
Im too tired to do the math but yeah it's not 100% accurate since once u hit your out it's removed from the deck, so u're less likely to hit it on the second run. How does that affect the results:
You're less likely to win the pot when you're an underdog but so does it when you're the favorite. Therefore it converges to a tie, if i had to do proper math, i should consider all 4 cases: one hand improves the other don't, both hands improve(x2), none improve.
I won't do the math since it would take forever and it really doesn't worth it. In probability theory, expectation of the sum of random variables is the sum of their expectations, even if, like you told me they're not independent:
E(X+Y) = E(X) + E(Y)
what you're saying is that because variables X and Y are dependent:
E(X+Y) =/= E(X) + E(Y) which is false.
Please don't force me to do the equations, i need to do shit today.
WiseAdvice you're acting like an idiot or a drunk, or both. It'd be fine if you were right but you are wrong. It doesn't change a single cent of EV if you run it once or twice. Exact same thing. Exact.
You can discuss the effects on the game, meta considerations, etc. but as far as the hand itself is concerned, it doesn't change shit.
You don't actually need any calculations to see that (and calculations could be annoying depending on how you do them, with all the outs counting and redraw possibilities).
Let's say we're allin and there are 5 cards to come. Forget about burned cards for the sake of simplicity, the cards to come are the 5 on top of the deck. Now imagine, instead of taking those 5 cards (that nobody has seen yet), I offer you to use the 5 cards from the bottom of the deck instead of those on top. Does your EV change ? Obviously no. What if we take cards 6-10 from the top of the deck ? Same thing, same odds, doesn't change a thing. Now let's put the top 5 cards of the deck aside, without seeing them yet. Let's also put the 5 next cards aside. Without seeing them, your EV is exactly the same on both of these potential boards, and is what you would usually consider your EV. Proof complete.
On September 25 2007 05:39 WiseAdvice wrote:
seriously baal i know ur a 200nl grinder trying to be a 400nl loose-agressive-monster-boss but wtf man i mean u gotta be stupid to run it twice. U play poker cant be scared, u have 1 shot to win all the money 70/30
lol i love you too <3
as i said i would run it twice me holding JJ or AT... not because im scared, but because its neutrally EV, what part of that you dont get, imma message Myth here since he is the math wiz.
Think it this way... if instead of running it TWICE we run it one hundred times ok?... what will be the results? you will win 70% of the pot, same equity, just reducing variance, same as running it twice dude.
nvm your question is legit and catyoul responded well, you can still accept to run it twice since u increase your chance to win half of the pot. Expectation stays the same.
Odds are exactly 50%, either happens or it doesnt
Last edit: 25/09/2007 16:14
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ShaunR United States. Sep 25 2007 15:58. Posts 604
Even if you use no burn cards and run it as many times as you can until the deck is completely dealt out, you don't change the odds.
On September 25 2007 15:09 sawseech wrote:
god, not this shit again
lol i know, WiseAdvice was the one who started this shit and even called us idiots :D
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[vital]Myth United States. Sep 25 2007 16:31. Posts 12159
no
anything catyoul says in regards to mathematics should be accepted as LAW
seriously, catyoul is right and anyone who disagrees with him about anything is wrong
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Ballad126 United States. Sep 25 2007 16:45. Posts 932
I was pretty shocked when I realized running stuff twice didn't affect the equity each player is expecting
I always just assumed it gave a little equity away to the underdog
I still don't like running stuff twice though. It reduces the probability of Phil Hellmuth blowups, and plus, who cares about the short-term results anyway
and also its pretty gay and reduces the fun factor if one guy sucks out in 1 but loses the other pot, at least on HSP this thing should be banned seriously, so uninteresting.
bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte
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TheHuHu United States. Sep 26 2007 00:39. Posts 4271
Rofl. Apparently Hellmuth is stuck $536,000 against Ivey in Chinese poker, lulz. Ivey is a niggerish monster.
It's so painful watching Sammy spew all that money. Stone cold mofo tilt. Playing in the dark is such sick gambolin'!
Raise me and die.
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Ballad126 United States. Sep 26 2007 02:25. Posts 932
On September 25 2007 17:06 locoo wrote:
and also its pretty gay and reduces the fun factor if one guy sucks out in 1 but loses the other pot, at least on HSP this thing should be banned seriously, so uninteresting.
QF such confuscius-like T
we keep getting these huge pots going on HSP, or good-sized pots that could bust certain people... and it's exciting, awesome, somebody's going to be very happy about this and somebody else is going to be very angry about this and we get to watch the aftermath and see people get mad
but then hey, let's run it twice, chop chop, pot over like it never even happened, everybody's friends again... YAWN
it really really hurts my enjoyment of HSP, I wish they wouldn't allow this
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
its great seeing farha gambol, at least he makes all of it back owning everyone at omaha
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
On October 01 2007 19:50 Narious wrote:
Yeah, I'ld like to know that as well. Tried to check the pokerbay but it seems to be down do high traffic or something.
just leave the page on, its going to refresh everytime!
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
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I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
didnt like much the episode, next one looks sweet though
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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Unforgiven_ve Venezuela. Oct 02 2007 08:45. Posts 732
On October 02 2007 02:58 CrownRoyal wrote:
sammy farha is so fucking badass.
seriously, i love that guy
he + unabomber = makes me come
please god if i win this hand...I WILL GLORIFY YOUR NAME !!!
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Unforgiven_ve Venezuela. Oct 02 2007 09:29. Posts 732
lol @ harman
"just reach for your purse and get another hundred thousand dollars"
please god if i win this hand...I WILL GLORIFY YOUR NAME !!!
Last edit: 02/10/2007 09:30
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shaneomac United States. Oct 02 2007 09:57. Posts 4245
any river ive ever seen jamie bet has been a bluff. he checks his marginal hands on the river and rarely valuebets from what we have been exposed to on TV. this means on the river he either has a monster or TOTAL air. if this is indeed a total indication of how he was playing (obv could be totally off due to small number we actually saw) it could be incredibly easy to play against.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
Bob Safai was truly gambling in episode 6. Just calling trash left, right, and center. No wonder Phil Hellmuth didn't want him to leave the table but next week it looks like he gets badbeated by Eli cause he has to leave and donate his money quickly.
It was a good episode and Sammy actually caught some hands finally. Nice to see him win a little cause the bigger stack he has, the more fun the game gets.
On October 03 2007 08:24 BeMannerPenner wrote:
sammy is the only true balla. this man is so amazing.
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Twisted Netherlands. Oct 03 2007 10:33. Posts 10422
On October 02 2007 05:37 wolfheart wrote:
sick calls by a6 by safai. And i think he is just a donkey those mini flush allin calls and a6 calls and so soso on.
lol it's not a sick call it's 1st level fish thinking
On October 02 2007 05:37 wolfheart wrote:
sick calls by a6 by safai. And i think he is just a donkey those mini flush allin calls and a6 calls and so soso on.
lol it's not a sick call it's 1st level fish thinking
PAIR OF ACES I CALL
that's exactly what I thought. baxter played that hand way better than Safai. Tries to bet strong and get him out, but when he notices Safai won't fold he checks river.
Baxter has been pretty impressive so far, Safai not so much
how much is sammy stuck...hes really gambling ^_^....bobsafi/baxters play is wtf T_T(everyhand hes like wtf raise i would of 2 paired...glad to see him gone)...hellmuth vs sammy hand was nice .....
lol daniel probably has a huge edge against those freaking donkeys.
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alphablend United States. Oct 09 2007 20:57. Posts 2424
On October 09 2007 17:44 eekmice wrote:
wow wtf was baxter thinking that hand
A gutshot straight draw is the absolute nuts, they got so lucky it didnt hit.
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TalentedTom Canada. Oct 09 2007 21:14. Posts 20070
Do we have any official download sites? This isn't up on pokerbay.. or full stream liks - those are just as good.
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I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
He's adjusting to the table, he's one sicko player and i don't care if people on this forum think he sucks because he's probably one of the most competent poker player out there. Period.
The only good thing was the call by hellmuth. But then again your against farha o=
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BIGlou83 United States. Oct 11 2007 22:20. Posts 305
yeah wasnt the best episode
Just Living The Dream
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zulu_nation8 United States. Oct 12 2007 04:41. Posts 1929
when is omgclayaiken gonna be on
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TianYuan Korea (South). Oct 12 2007 05:33. Posts 6817
Most likely never.
He was supposed to play on Day X (500k buyin day or whatever), but they asked him to play for a short while on day Y and he ended up playing nitty cause he didn't want to use up the money he'd brought to play on Day X (super juicy).
So basically because of that they cut him from day X so he probably wont get any/barely any airtime. You can find more info on 2+2
Hm.. Off-suite socks..
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alphablend United States. Oct 15 2007 18:12. Posts 2424
I want to see episode 8. I hope the release it tonight
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TalentedTom Canada. Oct 15 2007 18:14. Posts 20070
so there will be a few episodes in this season w/ 500k+ stacks?
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On October 10 2007 15:32 Unforgiven_ve wrote:
elezra is so well mannered
in a scary kind of way
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
lol at farha wanting to pay dinner for everyone then ''play a game of pot limit omaha''
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
oh and I agree I dont care if J-man is good i dont watch HSP to learn anything at all LOL thats why i have LP
bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte
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shaneomac United States. Oct 16 2007 12:17. Posts 4245
that K7 hand was magical. the fact he bet then shows phil the 7 like WTF. funny thing is sammy probly calls there with K7 but folds 77
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TianYuan Korea (South). Oct 16 2007 12:28. Posts 6817
On October 16 2007 07:48 lachlan_fearn wrote:
who is "J-Man" and what makes him so special
he was boring as in this episode, get him off, even safish can come back, at least he plays
He's OMGClayAiken online, a pretty awesome high stakes player. Bob Safai was SOOOOOOO BORING. Yeah sure he plays.. terribly. What fun is that? :/ He's like loose-passive with random allins, blech.
Baxter was fun at least, cause his plays made sense (except the KQ - wtf was that), and Farha is.. Farha.
Anyway, you can't judge Galfond from the 5 minutes he got to play, honestly, especially since he had brought money to play in the 500 000$ game that would be going the next day, and didn't want to waste any playing in this one (he'd brought 700 000$ or something I believe he said on 2+2).
On October 15 2007 17:14 TalentedTom wrote:
so there will be a few episodes in this season w/ 500k+ stacks?
iirc there will be 7 episodes with the 500K minimum buy in
I sometimes fold AA preflop to balance my range
Last edit: 18/10/2007 19:13
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chris United States. Oct 18 2007 19:07. Posts 5511
pardon my ignorance, but phil galfond = omgclayaiken and jman, correct?
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zealot13 Netherlands. Oct 18 2007 20:58. Posts 218
I think few can beat that table.
98% common.....
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nutshot United States. Oct 18 2007 21:04. Posts 4539
On October 18 2007 18:07 chris wrote:
pardon my ignorance, but phil galfond = omgclayaiken and jman, correct?
ya
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TalentedTom Canada. Oct 18 2007 21:28. Posts 20070
if LP gathers some funds from people and we stake someone like wiseadvice to play, he would murder this game by hitting 20+ sets
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On October 18 2007 20:28 TalentedTom wrote:
if LP gathers some funds from people and we stake someone like wiseadvice to play, he would murder this game by hitting 20+ sets
ROFL
98% is a ridiculous exageration as loose as this game is the straddles and the antes draw your stack pretty quick so its not as easy as u think, quite beatable for good players tho
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Oct 18 2007 23:37. Posts 14026
On October 18 2007 22:41 Adaptation wrote:
Our LP representative could defenitly beat Eli, Farha(not at Omaha though), Gold, but Negreanu/hellmuth and company are quite decent.
On October 18 2007 22:41 Adaptation wrote:
Our LP representative could defenitly beat Eli, Farha(not at Omaha though), Gold, but Negreanu/hellmuth and company are quite decent.
if you think top lpnetters would have trouble beating hellmuth online u have no idea about poker
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sOah United Kingdom. Oct 19 2007 06:51. Posts 4527
On October 16 2007 22:48 lachlan_fearn wrote:
yeah fair enough looks like a wannabe wigger tho
isnt he the dude that heaps of people have as their avatar on pokerstars?
a wannabe WIGGER? I see. This is kinda painful to read because out of all the rich idiot poker players that are truly the most pathetic wigga piece of shits on the planet, he's so not that at all...
but he does wear a cap in an ever-so-slightly unconventional manner..!
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milkman United States. Oct 22 2007 21:24. Posts 5719
can someone post a link directly to the torrent or something? i duno if thats against lps rules, but i cant see the link cuz i dont have a pokerbay account and u cant sign up for a new one.. or could someone that knows me like msg me the link? i duno, anything/
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twotimesopt United States. Oct 22 2007 21:34. Posts 2393
well it's hosted on pokerbay so i don't think you can DL the torrent w/o an account
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twotimesopt United States. Oct 22 2007 21:40. Posts 2393
has anybody been able to download this yet? i know it usually takes a while for people to start seeding, but the torrent has been up for at least an hour already and my download is going at like .2 KB/s...
EDIT: nm, now it goes fast
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Half million buy-in episodes start next week! I can't wait for it come! I'm sure the pros upped it cause 100K are terrible small stacks to play with and they get no thrill from it. =D
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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TianYuan Korea (South). Oct 22 2007 23:28. Posts 6817
On October 22 2007 21:29 Loco wrote:
i wish we had seen galfond play more hands.. hopefully he will loosen up a bit
the nit talk at the table was pretty funny
He wont.
He was conserving money for the 500k game.
Which is why he isn't in the 500k game.
-.-
Hm.. Off-suite socks..
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jkpickett United States. Oct 23 2007 00:21. Posts 1403
drunk friend post...edit
Those who oppose authority so vehemently often abuse it when given immense power
did you see Jennifer insta-call (and not raise with KQ) when the idiot Gold said "you would loose a lot of money"... i love her because unlike others at the table she keeps quiet and says shit about tells and stuff, very smart woman.
Just when i was going to give some credit to Gold about the AK fold (reading phil properly) the idiot checks against Farha that river with AQ ffs!
On October 23 2007 08:18 Nazgul wrote:
painfully bad bad AQ check by Gold, wtf is he playing that hand preflop for if he doesn't care about value when hitting
painfully bad play by farha all around
Its almost like Farha doesnt care / want world wide good table image.
Apparently umm the "online phil" was playing tighter because he only brought enough funds for the 500k game that was coming up? But then they booted him from that?
Anyone know anything about this?
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On October 23 2007 10:05 kantoiki wrote:
Apparently umm the "online phil" was playing tighter because he only brought enough funds for the 500k game that was coming up? But then they booted him from that?
Anyone know anything about this?
Yep he had 720k with him and he was schedueled ('guaranteed' seat) to play day 3 in the 500k game, he was like 2nd alternate for day 2 (the day we just watched)
so couldnt risk losing too much money and played very tight, also because theyre all monkeys in that game of course but if youre playing a ~100k stack when people are always straddling 1200 sometimes 2400 and preflop raises are 10k you just have to play 10% else youre gonna lose so much. I dunno the exact story about not playing day 3 but he wasn't allowed to play his seat on day 3 cause he was too tight and boring
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albonycee United States. Oct 23 2007 11:27. Posts 2749
plus he only played only about 40 hands total in 2 hours.
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CrownRoyal United States. Oct 23 2007 13:10. Posts 11386
On October 24 2007 01:33 n0rthf4ce wrote:
gold's starting to play much better!
agreed, he still sux tho, that river check with AQ is ridiculous vs Farha and his table talk is still a huge tell
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TheHuHu United States. Oct 24 2007 02:53. Posts 4271
Jamie Gold seems like a class guy after seeing this episode for some reason. There was a point in my life where I hated him more than Osama Bin Laden. Is that wrong?
On October 24 2007 01:53 TheHuHu wrote:
Jamie Gold seems like a class guy after seeing this episode for some reason. There was a point in my life where I hated him more than Osama Bin Laden. Is that wrong?
he just learned some poker
PS: anybody else noticed how hard Jamie was life tilting when he folded the AK and hellmuth lied about not having him beat? ROFL.
On October 24 2007 01:53 TheHuHu wrote:
Jamie Gold seems like a class guy after seeing this episode for some reason. There was a point in my life where I hated him more than Osama Bin Laden. Is that wrong?
he just learned some poker
PS: anybody else noticed how hard Jamie was life tilting when he folded the AK and hellmuth lied about not having him beat? ROFL.
Jamie Gold is a pathetic little idiot. Seems like he's been taught some basics though. Someone should have told Phil Hellmuth that.
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JohnnyBologna United States. Oct 24 2007 08:25. Posts 1401
500k buy in doesnt start till like November? not enough people losing enough money so far.
On October 23 2007 21:17 Nazgul wrote:
wtf u want him to say
if they were just playing alone of course nothing else he should say
but this is a tv show so he has to put some kind of show, either talking or playing, else is just space being wasted since hes "unknown".
Maybe he could've even gotten up a discussion about offline vs online players and say hes way better than any live player that wouldve been sick, and doesnt even have to be what he truly believes anyway.
TalentedTom Canada. Oct 27 2007 23:47. Posts 20070
that AQ check in position vs farha's 99 was soooo bad
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BowFlexJohn United States. Oct 29 2007 19:37. Posts 118
omg embarassing stuff for Galafond.... i loved the way he played K9 tho, river overbet ftw, it was awesome considering almost everybody in this show underbets.
Elezra's play with 88 sucked big time.... and Phil with his "i am not going to let you trample me" its such a ridiculous give away ffs... -_-, stupid idiot, he LIMPED he is not messing in that hand with you, why dont you better turn your hand over limp/shoving and then talking like u were making a stand -_-
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shaneomac United States. Oct 29 2007 23:59. Posts 4245
On October 29 2007 22:36 Baal wrote:
omg embarassing stuff for Galafond.... i loved the way he played K9 tho, river overbet ftw, it was awesome considering almost everybody in this show underbets.
Elezra's play with 88 sucked big time.... and Phil with his "i am not going to let you trample me" its such a ridiculous give away ffs... -_-, stupid idiot, he LIMPED he is not messing in that hand with you, why dont you better turn your hand over limp/shoving and then talking like u were making a stand -_-
he disguised his hand about as well as he did at the final table this year where he had AA vs AA vs KK. KK raises, chick goes allin hellmuth looks and shoves in so quick then scampers to the crowd like a gitty schoolgirl then the dude calls with KK and loses.
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alphablend United States. Oct 30 2007 00:27. Posts 2424
On October 29 2007 21:57 all_in_4tw wrote:
galfond lost like 13K mucking his card when he was splitting the pot
wtf was he thinking??????? i saw that and had to instapost here :O
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sOah United Kingdom. Oct 30 2007 00:39. Posts 4527
wow Jamie Gold is the biggest faggot on the planet
On October 29 2007 21:57 all_in_4tw wrote:
galfond lost like 13K mucking his card when he was splitting the pot
wtf was he thinking??????? i saw that and had to instapost here :O
he never imagined pair of 7s was good i guess and mucked and then he couldnt reclaim the pot, and it would look pathetic trying to
ROFL... WTF is up with Jamie mucking 83o preflop when there are still players in the pot? ZOMG jamie you got dealt trash... definitelly flash worthy, what a fucking idiot.
On October 29 2007 21:57 all_in_4tw wrote:
galfond lost like 13K mucking his card when he was splitting the pot
wtf was he thinking??????? i saw that and had to instapost here :O
he never imagined pair of 7s was good i guess and mucked and then he couldnt reclaim the pot, and it would look pathetic trying to
ROFL... WTF is up with Jamie mucking 83o preflop when there are still players in the pot? ZOMG jamie you got dealt trash... definitelly flash worthy, what a fucking idiot.
He looked alot more like an idiot mucking the best hand on national tv
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