Cash Game Question

Poll: Would you rather Open Raise K6o on the BTN 50bb deep or 200bb deep
(Vote): 50bb
(Vote): 200bb

In NLH Cash Games - Since positional advantage decreases with stack size, while linear hands value increases with shorter stacks, trying to weigh which one factor outweights the other.

would be an auto open for me deeper, less automatic shallow, so I guess I'd rather be deeper.

Purely dependent on the blinds, the hand plays poorly no matter what stacksize. Without any reads to me it is a very clear fold pre. But i could be wrong.

Its just easier to re-bluff deeper.

There is also the inverse of this question, which is


Poll: Would you rather open 76s UTG 50bb or 200bb deep?
(Vote): 50BB Deep
(Vote): 200BB Deep
(Vote):

Also,


Poll: Would you rather open 87o BVB 50bb deep or 200bb deep?
(Vote): 50bb
(Vote): 200bb
(Vote):

I'd rather play every hand in the game 200bb deep

On November 14 2015 04:06 K40Cheddar wrote: I'd rather play every hand in the game 200bb deep

this

it is very difficult to estimat the overall EV of a specific combo unless you take it out of a big database, but Id say that 50bb deep is better

50bb is a stack where you're open to aggressive 3bet/get it in strategies if you're opening as wide as K6o and the hand isn't going to do that well when called either, it's probably a super marginal open at that stack depth. The deeper you are the less frequently you should get 3bet and the more effective posiiton will be. You should realise a greater % of your hand's equity with deeper stacks in position. At some stack size I'd imagine you can raise any 2 cards, though I've no clue what that stack depth would be

On November 15 2015 06:35 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: 50bb is a stack where you're open to aggressive 3bet/get it in strategies if you're opening as wide as K6o and the hand isn't going to do that well when called either, it's probably a super marginal open at that stack depth. The deeper you are the less frequently you should get 3bet and the more effective posiiton will be. You should realise a greater % of your hand's equity with deeper stacks in position. At some stack size I'd imagine you can raise any 2 cards, though I've no clue what that stack depth would be

This doesnt feel very game theory based...

besides the last part id say hes spot on.

I also think hes spot on

On November 15 2015 12:57 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On November 15 2015 06:35 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: 50bb is a stack where you're open to aggressive 3bet/get it in strategies if you're opening as wide as K6o and the hand isn't going to do that well when called either, it's probably a super marginal open at that stack depth. The deeper you are the less frequently you should get 3bet and the more effective posiiton will be. You should realise a greater % of your hand's equity with deeper stacks in position. At some stack size I'd imagine you can raise any 2 cards, though I've no clue what that stack depth would be This doesnt feel very game theory based...

No, it is very game theory based. The deeper you are the more valuable position becomes and the more hands you should raise in position. This is included in the original question, it is countered by the fact that the deeper you get the less valuable a hand like K6o becomes.

The whole question is which of these factors should outweigh the other...........


The strange part so far to me is that the answers seem to be contradicting, where in the K6o hand people value position > handtype
while in the 76s hand people value handtype > position, if that makes sense.

Granted that UTG isn't as clear a positional disadvantage because there is 2 ppl IP and 2ppl OOP