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Jollocks   United Kingdom. Jul 04 2014 12:02. Posts 1

Hey, I'm a new poker player just playing for playmoney in SnG's on pokerstars, I'm going to start playing microstakes when I get paid. Anyway, Basically, I know the rules of poker, and I know the basics of the game. However, I'm looking to expand my knowledge and improve my game overall. What is the most important thing I should work on? And is their any books, videos etc on how to work on it?

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jul 06 2014 15:11. Posts 9634

if you're looking to start potentially playing poker seriously just stop right now and go into a normal profession. Best advice ever given and i should get a green star for it.


If however you're a stubborn mofo I suggest reading Harrington's on hold em - which is probably the most basic poker book ever and Ryan Fee's book which I still feel is very basic - http://www.gamblingsystem.biz/books/2p2NL6max.pdf

As for videos, don't think its worth investing money into a coaching site w videos and etc, before beating 25nl or something like that.


Rapoza   Brasil. Jul 06 2014 16:02. Posts 1612

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Tensai176   Canada. Jul 06 2014 23:28. Posts 1018

What happened to just playing poker as a fun hobby but still wanting to get better at it?

Why is it always the dichotomy of not playing vs. playing for a living?


punix   Germany. Jul 07 2014 11:33. Posts 406

poker as fun hobby is -EV according to LP :D


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 08 2014 02:43. Posts 15162

poker sucks part time go ham or go home

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TalentedTom    Canada. Jul 08 2014 12:46. Posts 20070


  On July 06 2014 15:02 Rapoza wrote:
LP could use a beginners FAQ

- play money its not poker. Its like trying to learn poker playing chess.
- other players are way better then you so expect to lose money until you become better then they are. That's why Spitfiree advice is good.
- seriously recommend to find someone who already beats the game that you can talk about poker. It will greatly speeds up your growth;
- buy a software like pokertracker or Holden Manager and learn how to use it;
- learn about basic strategy and bankroll management;
- once you got everything above, post hands in forums like this one, be nice and ask for advice

My last and better advice is: dont start.
Chances of succeeding are pretty slim, games are getting harder and harder, rake eats a huge part of our profit and time would probably be better spent somewhere else.

But if you rly wants to take a shot, take it seriously, do not SLACK and WORK HARD to become better.
Good Luck.



I learned how to play starting out with play money ^^

That being said , NL5 is a huge step up from 40k play money. That aside, you can learn a lot from play money, how to multi-table, and manipulate weaker players

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mnj   United States. Jul 08 2014 17:57. Posts 3848


  On July 06 2014 14:11 Spitfiree wrote:
if you're looking to start potentially playing poker seriously just stop right now and go into a normal profession. Best advice ever given and i should get a green star for it.



runaway as fast as you can


mnj   United States. Jul 08 2014 18:04. Posts 3848

i wish sakisaki would come back and give us an update on his endeavors or something. i know poker seems like a wonderful, exciting lifestyle but there are just a lot of things to do in life.

i remember when i first read that sakisaki was giving up poker to go into med school, i thought what an idiot! giving up the lifestyle and teh freedom to become a doctor? what a noob!

i think most of us are scared to join the actual world because of preconceived notions about how the world works. just speaking from personal experience, i work at a corporate job in finance but am quite happy with it. i used to think working in this kinda environment would be stifling and monotonous, but in my experience in both my part time job history as well as my current "career" job, to be rewarding.

another example would be someone like RTZ in case you follow dota2 professional scene. i think RTZ despite his antics has a really good family support system and really good advice from fear and universe. despite being one of the most talented youngest stars in the scene, he himself has stated multiple times that he's going to give himself a year to explore and fully commit to dota, but is plannin on going back to school to become a doctor. depending on his success i don't think it'd be bad for him to extend that to 2 or even 3 years. but i think he can see that no matter how large his success in dota2, his sucess in "real life" can math or even surpass his accomplishments in a video game.

iono how old hot bid and tobiwan are but they are like my favorite personalities in the gaming scene. but i'd be lieing if i didn't say a part of me wishes that they'd grow up. iono how long you could do this for comfortably. it's great to be part of such a young industry and we'll see all together and witness how farm it can blossom. but i don't particularly envy being in my 30's and casting video games. obviously to each his own, people have their own paths and own values for a happy, fulfilling life.

this isn't an attack on any lper, but you can check out his current blog post here:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/blog/viewblog.php?id=1110860

but there definitely was a time where I would have been jealous and admiring the "freedom" to live however you want. but your preferences may change as you get older.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/29/opinion/sunday/why-teenagers-act-crazy.html

 Last edit: 08/07/2014 20:46

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jul 08 2014 18:09. Posts 9634

I don't get it.. it seems like you're telling me to piss off , yet you agree with me :D

I'd like an update from someone like Saki too, there was also this british guy think F4zi? who stopped playing as well and went into finance/entrepreneur job

 Last edit: 08/07/2014 18:13

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jul 08 2014 20:05. Posts 9634

nvm wrong thread - del this post

 Last edit: 08/07/2014 20:06

lhr0909   China. Jul 08 2014 22:37. Posts 423


  On July 08 2014 17:04 mnj wrote:
i wish sakisaki would come back and give us an update on his endeavors or something. i know poker seems like a wonderful, exciting lifestyle but there are just a lot of things to do in life.

i remember when i first read that sakisaki was giving up poker to go into med school, i thought what an idiot! giving up the lifestyle and teh freedom to become a doctor? what a noob!

i think most of us are scared to join the actual world because of preconceived notions about how the world works. just speaking from personal experience, i work at a corporate job in finance but am quite happy with it. i used to think working in this kinda environment would be stifling and monotonous, but in my experience in both my part time job history as well as my current "career" job, to be rewarding.

another example would be someone like RTZ in case you follow dota2 professional scene. i think RTZ despite his antics has a really good family support system and really good advice from fear and universe. despite being one of the most talented youngest stars in the scene, he himself has stated multiple times that he's going to give himself a year to explore and fully commit to dota, but is plannin on going back to school to become a doctor. depending on his success i don't think it'd be bad for him to extend that to 2 or even 3 years. but i think he can see that no matter how large his success in dota2, his sucess in "real life" can math or even surpass his accomplishments in a video game.

iono how old hot bid and tobiwan are but they are like my favorite personalities in the gaming scene. but i'd be lieing if i didn't say a part of me wishes that they'd grow up. iono how long you could do this for comfortably. it's great to be part of such a young industry and we'll see all together and witness how farm it can blossom. but i don't particularly envy being in my 30's and casting video games. obviously to each his own, people have their own paths and own values for a happy, fulfilling life.

this isn't an attack on any lper, but you can check out his current blog post here:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/blog/viewblog.php?id=1110860

but there definitely was a time where I would have been jealous and admiring the "freedom" to live however you want. but your preferences may change as you get older.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/29/opinion/sunday/why-teenagers-act-crazy.html



Was checking out his blog and it seems like his medical school is almost done. Hope he comes back and writes us an update or whatnot.

Yeah personally I agree with you. I am jealous about ppl that can just play video games for a very decent living, and have fun while doing it, but I really cannot commit as much time/effort as I really wish towards things I like to get better at (till I am good enough to make a living out of it).

no pain no gainLast edit: 08/07/2014 22:40

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jul 11 2014 18:16. Posts 15162

Preferences change the other way around too, as they get older many people realize its not what makes you most money or what people expect of you, but what fulfills you and gives you the lifestyle (not interchangeable with money necessarily) you want.

Mentioning finance is funny, so many of my former colleagues from finance quit to e.g. work on a farm, open a family shop or drive a bus. Finance is one of the least fulfilling careers really if you look at the big picture.

Hell I'm one of them even tho they do it in their 40s and me in my 20s. But yeah I was there and found out how the real world works. It's pointless really if you think about it, it feels like a game all the same really only difference is how other people view you, and what you actually want to do.
Once you stop thinking about the former and focus on the latter there's no difference between being a president of US, playing poker or being a beggar monk in the woods, only thing that matters is what suits you better.

Asking Tobiwan to grow up is like an ascetic monk asking Obama to grow up, resign and finally go live in the woods on seeds.

93% Sure! Last edit: 11/07/2014 18:20

 



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