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k4ir0s   Canada. Jun 08 2014 07:55. Posts 3476

thanks

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 08 2014 08:42. Posts 4019

Your vocabulary shouldn't even include words like "improving". Playing <50nl for years and years and years. You may write as many blogposts or deceive yourself or even blow smoke into some lowstakes players arses but the reality you can't escape is results. Which you have nothing to show for. So go ahead, keep improving, the longer it goes on the more value the word loses coming from you.


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 08 2014 09:03. Posts 15163

Not that I don't try not to care about results, but I have pretty okay results relative to the skill level you assign me

93% Sure! Last edit: 08/06/2014 09:05

cariadon   Estonia. Jun 08 2014 09:07. Posts 4019

You must overestimate the skill level i assign you.


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 08 2014 09:16. Posts 15163

Why thank you for complimenting my results

93% Sure!  

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 08 2014 09:38. Posts 15163

Also thank you for your kindness, but I have not written any of the blog - I assumed I made it clear enough

93% Sure!  

napoleono   Romania. Jun 08 2014 12:49. Posts 771

Haters gonna hate. Keep it up man, whatever makes u happy


Romm3l   Germany. Jun 08 2014 13:50. Posts 285

interesting reading, thanks for bringing it here.


JohnnyBologna   United States. Jun 08 2014 15:23. Posts 1401

very good article. So much of this applies to life as well. SO much stuff we practice in theory but are not able to in real time

Just do whats right 

GoldRush   United States. Jun 08 2014 20:15. Posts 1025

good article


whamm!   Albania. Jun 08 2014 22:48. Posts 11625

that beard


GoldRush   United States. Jun 09 2014 14:58. Posts 1025

btw why bash lemon. u guys gotta realize, over the years i've met tons of players, and some players, even though they are very solid, have problems at higher stakes because of "gambling with more monies" - this seems to be lemons case, as his thinking process seems solid etc.

if he never did any cashouts, he should be at least crushing nl100+++

the guy just needs to stop cashing out poker funds for 6 months minimum to build up.

i believe in him tbh.

GL Lemon.
Ryan


GoldRush   United States. Jun 09 2014 15:01. Posts 1025

that beard.......always a bridesmaid..


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 09 2014 18:56. Posts 15163

Although it's true that without cashouts I'd have a NL500 roll now

In advanced mechanics even though I understand like 90% concepts, I am pretty much in kindergarten when it comes to practical application.
Thing is it doesn't matter how many videos you watch, how many posts you read or write. To get the advanced mechanics and apply them in your game there is no shortcut unless you are mad talented like nanonoko or isildur(I'm not)- you have to drill drill drill work out your own game and your own ranges on and off the table to force yourself to eventually think entirely in ranges and distributions.
Shit's hard, and tedious, and a reason why I doubt even NLHE cash games are anywhere near to drying up in the next years. I work harder than most and am still a lazy fuck that's done fuck all in this aspect. I still break down like what, 2 hands per week on average with math and range break down, neither of them entirely on all streets even, and I'm being generous? 5 a day, lol wtf Sauce

93% Sure! Last edit: 09/06/2014 19:13

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 09 2014 19:29. Posts 15163

Cause first of all our ranges are different cause of different styles and different player pools compared to people making videos.

And second, video makers almost never reveal their ranges because of laziness or they purposefully hold them back as Sauce has openly admitted.

93% Sure! Last edit: 09/06/2014 19:29

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jun 09 2014 21:26. Posts 8648

have you ever tried programming lemon? i think it fits a lot of the same concepts you like about poker (encourages/rewards analytically-minded ppl, potentially provides a level of autonomy, can make a lot of money if you get really good at it, if not can still be fun and a little profitable as a hobby). there's also way more quality free programming material available compared to poker training material.

enjoyed the blogpost btw

Truck-Crash LifeLast edit: 09/06/2014 21:33

jvilla777   Australia. Jun 10 2014 05:04. Posts 1348


  On June 09 2014 17:56 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Although it's true that without cashouts I'd have a NL500 roll now



It's cool how you analyze hands, and give details and opinions, I too always wondered why you have over 13k post and provide really advanced comments and feedback but still play in the micros. Not bashing you, I like what you do in forums, how you help others and comment on hands.

Please post lifetime graph.

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

hiems   United States. Jun 10 2014 11:12. Posts 2979


  On June 09 2014 20:26 bigredhoss wrote:
have you ever tried programming lemon? i think it fits a lot of the same concepts you like about poker (encourages/rewards analytically-minded ppl, potentially provides a level of autonomy, can make a lot of money if you get really good at it, if not can still be fun and a little profitable as a hobby). there's also way more quality free programming material available compared to poker training material.

enjoyed the blogpost btw



nah lemon would be best off as a postdoc/assistantprofessor track and most practically a high school teacher or something like that.

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img]Last edit: 10/06/2014 11:14

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 10 2014 13:13. Posts 15163

Yeah I actually considered doing being a research student few years back.

I like the flexibility and theory crafting of poker while keeping it competitive though - academia you have freedom the study's very similar to poker but it I kinda enjoy the competitiveness you won't find there.

Besides. as long as I have money for food I'm a happy camper I'm spending loads of time reading and got caught in science now too. It's just more fun when you can study whatever the hell you like with no pressure. Hell there's positive pressure as reading what's fun and engaging takes my mind off poker and makes me play better

93% Sure! Last edit: 10/06/2014 13:16

Gnarly   United States. Jun 11 2014 12:36. Posts 1723

Maybe lemons problem is that teachers teach because they can't do what they teach.

I think knowing one's weaknesses and strengths should be a mechanic. Are you a better live player or a better online player? Is math your strong suit or are people skills your thing? Not even that, but in live games, I think having a range of tells is a mechanic all on it's own. Though, I guess you could call that exploitative play?


  So, you might go about translating your conscious, analytic, effortful work on poker theory into an instinctual mechanic by taking five or so hands a day and first writing down in a stream of consciousness your best guess at your range in a given spot.



The thing with this is that I already know what I was thinking and what my range is because with all the previous hands for that sessions, I'm crafting a range for the other people to see. Then again, I guess that falls under exploitative play.

Diversify or fossilize! 

 
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