3bet shove or 3bet/cbetshove?

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HerroRara Canada. Feb 21 2012 04:38. Posts 168

Submitted by : HerroRara

***** Hand History for Game 75957092883 ***** Poker Stars
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, February 21, 04:11:12 ET 2012
Table 520365501 1 Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Petaka82 $1910.00 USD
Seat 2: Hero $1090.00 USD
Petaka82 posts small blind [$20.00 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$40.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [ ]
Petaka82 raises [$100.00 USD]
Hero raises [$320.00 USD]
Petaka82 calls [$240.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $660.00)


Hero bets [$730.00 USD]
Petaka82 calls [$730.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $2,120.00)



River (Pot : $2,120.00)


Hero shows
Petaka82 shows
Petaka82 wins $2180.00 USD from main pot

hu sng blinds at 20/40

He was a loose player who called a lot from the bb and would call 3 bets pretty light. Given stack sizes, should I overbet 3 bet shove preflop or play it like this?

How about for all my value hands in general(midpair+/A10+)? 3betshove or 3 bet/cbetshove?

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Last edit: 21/02/2012 07:39

Tensai176 Canada. Feb 21 2012 07:35. Posts 1018

I remember the days when 4000NL was low stakes =p

jeffv8x_-_16 Belgium. Feb 21 2012 09:41. Posts 2835

3b to like 500+ and shove any flop

how can u shove the river, he cant possibly call with worse -TalentedTom

SpasticInk Sweden. Feb 21 2012 21:19. Posts 6298

dunno - his pf call is horrendous

player999 Brasil. Feb 28 2012 00:06. Posts 7978

On February 21 2012 08:41 jeffv8x_-_16 wrote:
3b to like 500+ and shove any flop

bingo

also I think these should either be on "other games" or "tournament poker"

EDIT: even though I prob like jeff's line more, 3bet shoving is still great, that 3betsize you did there, not so much, its just the exact betsize that allows him to call and get you in a unconfortable spot on a decent amount of flops (not that his call is any good obv)

EDIT2: but vs this guy 540-580 -> shove most flops (trap others, sillybet 80 others) is still a lot better

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol

Last edit: 28/02/2012 00:10

player999 Brasil. Feb 28 2012 00:12. Posts 7978

to 2nd question, 3bet shove hands that flop terrible like 77-, A9-, and 3bet big hands that flop better/dominate his calling range

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol

tooker . Feb 28 2012 22:32. Posts 470

Everything player999 says is gold, but if your not sure about what to 3b to just jam, makes life MUCH easier.