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k2o4   United States. Dec 25 2007 12:45. Posts 4803

I really have no idea how to handle this situation and really would love an answer. This guy was TAG playing 12/9/10 over 365 hands.

Submitted by : k2o4

PokerStars Game #14084248767: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/25 - 02:58:22 (ET)
Table 'Devosa IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: bengiec ($155.70 in chips)
Seat 2: dave_jan ($198.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Daeil ($119.60 in chips)
Seat 4: k2o4 ($139.45 in chips)
Seat 5: deba1988 ($28.65 in chips)
Seat 6: dougiefresh1 ($15.30 in chips)
dave_jan: posts small blind $0.50
Daeil: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to k2o4 JsJh
k2o4 : raises $3 to $4
deba1988: folds
dougiefresh1: folds
bengiec: folds
dave_jan: folds
Daeil: raises $12 to $16
k2o4 : calls $12

Flop (Pot : $32.50)

   Qh9s3c
Daeil: bets $24
k2o4 : folds
Daeil collected $30.90 from pot
Daeil: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $32.50 | Rake $1.60
Board  Qh9s3c
Seat 1: bengiec (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: dave_jan (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Daeil (big blind) collected ($30.90)
Seat 4: k2o4 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: deba1988 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dougiefresh1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)






Same type of thing here too. Should I be coming back over the top with these hands or what?

Submitted by : k2o4

POKERSTARS GAME #14083412327: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/12/25 - 01:36:11 (ET)
Table 'Troilus IV' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: bkplaya2007 ($129.65 in chips)
Seat 2: k2o4 ($114.10 in chips)
Seat 3: ucisneaky2 ($59 in chips)
Seat 4: 1iONU ($104.95 in chips)
Seat 5: Sweet.kr ($128.90 in chips)
Seat 6: doctorofdoom ($87.50 in chips)
ucisneaky2: posts small blind $0.50
1iONU: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to k2o4 KcAh
Sweet.kr: folds
doctorofdoom: folds
bkplaya2007: calls $1
k2o4 : raises $4 to $5
ucisneaky2: folds
1iONU: raises $13 to $18
bkplaya2007: folds
k2o4 : calls $13

Flop (Pot : $37.50)

   7h4h6s
1iONU: bets $28
k2o4 : folds
1iONU collected $35.65 from pot
1iONU: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $37.50 | Rake $1.85
Board  7h4h6s
Seat 1: bkplaya2007 folded before Flop
Seat 2: k2o4 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: ucisneaky2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: 1iONU (big blind) collected ($35.65)
Seat 5: Sweet.kr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: doctorofdoom folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Cintaj   Netherlands. Dec 25 2007 14:33. Posts 53

Fold both, you are 3bet pf, this narrows their range, if you got a read on villain you might raise him sometimes, but not too often.


Breeze   Bulgaria. Dec 25 2007 14:49. Posts 802


  On December 25 2007 13:33 Cintaj wrote:
Fold both, you are 3bet pf, this narrows their range, if you got a read on villain you might raise him sometimes, but not too often.



Not really, first hand yeah but second one you should feel great against his range... I call or sometimes fold to a nit in the first situation but second one = bring it on bitch

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SKoT   United States. Dec 25 2007 16:05. Posts 1768

I never like playing 2nd hand w/ ak like that. You're folding to any non AK/TJQ flop and you're not getting value out of hands you spike against

either reraise or fold


I will, however, say that I have in fact played my AK like that in position but only with the sole intention of raising/leading any flop thats bet/checked to me


k2o4   United States. Dec 25 2007 21:28. Posts 4803


  On December 25 2007 15:05 SKoT wrote:
I never like playing 2nd hand w/ ak like that. You're folding to any non AK/TJQ flop and you're not getting value out of hands you spike against

either reraise or fold


I will, however, say that I have in fact played my AK like that in position but only with the sole intention of raising/leading any flop thats bet/checked to me



re-raise all-in or just pot?

also, what are your thoughts on the JJ hand?

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