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Tycho Netherlands. Feb 22 2007 07:31. Posts 1553 | | |
Hey all,
first of all, thanks to everyone who will read (some parts) of this huge post and give me some advice, all input is much appreciated!
so I made the transition from NL50 on FTP to NL100 on PS lately and I' ve been having a bit of a rough time. It's been mostly because of running bad, but this is not a whine topic. While running bad, I tend to look over all my hands and see if I make plays that are -EV.
- I am asking you to tell me how I should' ve played certain hands to save myself some money in the future. It will probably include some horrible plays as well (only been playing 1/2 a year, I' m still learning), so don' t be too harsh  .
- Please mention my points / hand examples / questions listed as 1) --> 8), if you give a specific reply.
- I am also asking anyone who' s familiar with NL100 FR on PS, to give some general advice how to play versus these tons of calling stations, setminers and extremely tight nits. Normally I try to find it out myself, but hopefully your opinions will help me save money and time!
1) First, my own stats, anything fundamentally wrong with it?
2) Small flush, should I've reraised flop hard to see if I was beat and save myself the turn / river action? Or is this just a no brainer to get to the showdown if the board doesn' t pair / no 4th club comes?
Submitted by : Tycho
POKERSTARS GAME #8547980103: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/02/21 - 05:00:34 (ET)
Table 'Nephthys V' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Tombstone30 ($96.60 in chips)
Seat 2: SolaSystem ($223.90 in chips)
Seat 3: NRLGolf15 ($103 in chips)
Seat 4: PretenderTUW ($147.45 in chips)
Seat 5: John Babiuk ($62.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Flushtrated ($100.30 in chips)
Seat 7: THESLOTHS1 ($105.65 in chips)
Seat 8: generalpoker ($100.65 in chips)
Seat 9: thomas40j ($49 in chips)
NRLGolf15: posts small blind $0.50
PretenderTUW: posts big blind $1
Holecards
Dealt to PretenderTUW  
John Babiuk: calls $1
Flushtrated: calls $1
THESLOTHS1: folds
generalpoker: folds
thomas40j: calls $1
Tombstone30: folds
SolaSystem: folds
NRLGolf15: calls $0.50
PretenderTUW: checks
Flop (Pot : $5)
  
NRLGolf15: checks
PretenderTUW: bets $2
John Babiuk: folds
Flushtrated: raises $4 to $6
thomas40j: folds
NRLGolf15: folds
PretenderTUW: calls $4
Turn (Pot : $17)
PretenderTUW: bets $10
Flushtrated: raises $10 to $20
PretenderTUW: calls $10
River (Pot : $57)
PretenderTUW: checks
Flushtrated: bets $32
PretenderTUW: calls $32
Showdown
Flushtrated: shows   (a flush, Ace high)
PretenderTUW: mucks hand
Flushtrated collected $118 from pot
Summary
Total pot $121 | Rake $3
Board
Seat 1: Tombstone30 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: SolaSystem (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: NRLGolf15 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: PretenderTUW (big blind) mucked
Seat 5: John Babiuk folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Flushtrated showed and won ($118) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: THESLOTHS1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: generalpoker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: thomas40j folded on the Flop
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Tycho Netherlands. Feb 22 2007 07:32. Posts 1553 | | | |
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Tycho Netherlands. Feb 22 2007 07:48. Posts 1553 | | |
wow this is even bigger then i thought it would be, well you can always just slide through and give general advice about my plays.. specific advice per hand would be great though =) |
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nicksson Sweden. Feb 22 2007 07:59. Posts 4662 | | |
next time just link to the hand |
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sOah United Kingdom. Feb 22 2007 08:15. Posts 4527 | | |
here are a few bits of advice, listen to them or don't I haven't personally played NL$100 Full-ring on Stars but here it goes -
1) don't bluff or feel the need to bluff - dear god you don't need to bluff to make easy easy easy money so why bother making a simple game hard?
2) on hands like (8), what the hell do you beat? Don't look at your hand - look at the actions, the player, the board, and THEN your hand, and then take it from there.
3) everytime something happens like on (7), just note down that that partciular player cold called /w AA and in what position pf, and then adjust your play accordingly. Sometimes that's all you can do, and keep it for next time you play them, and if you play with them enough, you'll make that money back and more.
4) hands like (6) is such a spew, completely unnecessary and no matter what you tell yourself, you're turning your hand into 32o, cause it might as well be 32o. Don't do any of these types of things without STRONG reads that you've picked up with pots you've been in or pots you've seen players play with others. I can tell you that I wouldn't be far off in saying that 75%+ people that play NL$100 Full-ring profitably, never, ever EVER bluff, unless you call shoving AdKd on 2d6dQx a bluff, which you shouldn't. You get what I mean.
I could go on and on but hopefully this has helped you a bit. |
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Joe Czech Republic. Feb 22 2007 08:23. Posts 5987 | | |
overall advice after quick look over all the hands:
u seem to overthink situations a lot. dont try to represent something u dont have too much, dont bluff if they clearly have at least something. cbet bluff should be the only frequently used bluff. u may bluff in some small unconteted pots, but its not really a good idea to try and make people fold decent hands after they invested some money to the pot.
play straightforward poker, play ur hands for the real value they have, dont think people always bluff u (if they do, then its usually extremely obvious, else assume they have it much more often than not), make as much value of ur hands as u can.
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Joe Czech Republic. Feb 22 2007 08:36. Posts 5987 | | |
ad2 - bet pot on flop, dont try to suck people in with such a vulnerable hand. basically its not a big deal to lose half a buyin on flopped flush vs overflush, but i really dont like the way u played it. better play it strong, protect it and if he still minraises u and then bets a lot on river u might fold.
ad3 - i wouldnt recommend doing this unless u have a read that it means weakness by that particular player. if he frontbets smallish, u may try it more often, but here u really need to be successfull extremely often for it to be +EV. simply play the hand strength, which is fold here.
ad4 - dont play rred pot pf with KQ unless villain is a maniac. and dont ever ever read this as a weakness unless u really know villain very very good. again, play according to what u really have, dont make big bluffs hoping it would work
ad5 - bet pot on the flop, the rest is quite ok. just dont get into some heavy action with it thinking he would bluff u.
i think i would have bet turn though, like 2/3potsize and then check/call river or check/fold if it was too expensive.
ad6 - play them for what they are worth - to hit a set. dont try these bluffs to much. even if u really feel the need to, then better float flop and take it down on turn if he checks to u. but then again, u may as well do it with 27o.
ad7 - hm i think u played this hand fine, it is better to make ur decision there on flop imo. if he was a fullstack i wouldnt like to play JJ for stacks there unless he is aggro, but vs a shortie, its kinda easy to play it for his stack.
ad8 - he limped utg, so u dont really beat much after his flop raise. but given how cheap it was, i think u played this hand fine. of course u would have to fold it to any bigger action.
hope it helps u a bit. |
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sOah United Kingdom. Feb 22 2007 08:36. Posts 4527 | | |
yea obv a cont bet with a strong hand vs one opponent is not a bluff per se |
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ok first off your stats are ridiculous 6k hands really are nothing but try to get your won at showdown rate over 50%. ok next thing is you seem to get too aggressive against the regulars on your table like with the 44 hand most of these guys arent betting the flop with AK or something nl100 is still basically about nut peddling and set farming.but one thing you have to focus on is table selection which i think becomes very important. try to always have some fish on your table because its really tough to make money from the tight players on nl100. |
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Radiohead Norway. Feb 22 2007 08:47. Posts 1476 | | |
you should raise more of your hands preflop
you play too many hands from the small blind
your turn AF is a bit high, check turn sometimes and exercise pot control, try to avoid getting into huge pots with one pair hands etc if the pot started out small
and of course, you should try to get your showdown % won above 50. |
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Tycho Netherlands. Feb 22 2007 08:53. Posts 1553 | | |
| | On February 22 2007 07:36 Joe wrote:
ad5 - bet pot on the flop, the rest is quite ok. just dont get into some heavy action with it thinking he would bluff u.
i think i would have bet turn though, like 2/3potsize and then check/call river or check/fold if it was too expensive.
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so do you think it' s always better to continue betting on a scary turncard, to show that it doesn' t scare you?
if he reraises turn big should i fold? the check / call river or check fold if too expensive i did already, hopefully most players don' t value bet at nl100 =[
i really appreciate the help guys |
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Tycho Netherlands. Feb 22 2007 08:56. Posts 1553 | | |
| | On February 22 2007 07:40 def_jammer wrote:
but one thing you have to focus on is table selection which i think becomes very important. try to always have some fish on your table because its really tough to make money from the tight players on nl100. |
table selection meaning i should go on tables with the highest PFR % and biggest pots right? and fish being either marked players or shortstacks (20 - 80 $ stacks) --> i remember reading on this site you should always sit at tables with many big stacks though, what's your thought on this? |
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Tycho Netherlands. Feb 22 2007 08:58. Posts 1553 | | |
| | On February 22 2007 07:47 Radiohead wrote:
you should raise more of your hands preflop
you play too many hands from the small blind
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1) i raise almost every hand i play when the pot isn' t raised, i do tend to reraise only with premium hands, is reraising with average hands in position worth it vs the regular nutpeddler or should i only do it against people with high vpip/pf ?
2) on a quick side note: what hand range do you call with in the SB in an unraised pot? |
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Chase Canada. Feb 22 2007 09:00. Posts 1077 | | |
Play good solid poker
95% of it all is just to play good, solid poker
So when it comes down to it, just play good poker
Solid, good poker, that's what it's all about
So yeah, just play good, solid poker
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XeliN United Kingdom. Feb 22 2007 09:00. Posts 2365 | | |
to me personally you seem to have played the hands relatively fine possibly being overagressive but i like how you played them |
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