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Handnr: 935943
Submitted by : sChOuA

PokerStars Hand #74030431278: Holdem No Limit ($3/$6 USD) - 2012/01/18 0:03:36 CET [2012/01/17 18:03:36 ET]
Table Parana VIII 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Roy-sChOuA ($2379.45 in chips)
Seat 4: JeanDitPipi ($1695.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Dantistcopra ($1469.60 in chips)
JeanDitPipi: posts small blind $3
Dantistcopra: posts big blind $6
Roy-sChOuA: posts the ante $1.20
JeanDitPipi: posts the ante $1.20
Dantistcopra: posts the ante $1.20

Holecards
Dealt to Roy-sChOuA TsKs
Roy-sChOuA: raises $12 to $18
JeanDitPipi: calls $15
Dantistcopra: calls $12

Flop (Pot : $54.00)

   3sQs2s
JeanDitPipi: bets $42
Dantistcopra: calls $42
Roy-sChOuA: calls $42

Turn (Pot : $180.00)

   3sQs2sTh
JeanDitPipi: bets $168
Dantistcopra: calls $168

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sChOuA   Switzerland. Jan 25 2012 11:06. Posts 2279

What do you like here best, call or raise?

JeanDitPipi is pretty aggro and Dantistcopra just joined the table some hands ago and never played with him before


gebbstet   Sweden. Jan 25 2012 11:09. Posts 305

I would raise flop, raising turn here just looks superstrong


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jan 25 2012 11:16. Posts 8871

man oh man why do you flat the flop :O


sChOuA   Switzerland. Jan 25 2012 11:20. Posts 2279

Why you think its much better to raise flop?


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jan 25 2012 11:23. Posts 10871

beacuse they dont like the free 300$ on turn


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jan 25 2012 11:23. Posts 10871

i like flatting flop i raise turn tho


gebbstet   Sweden. Jan 25 2012 11:23. Posts 305


  On January 25 2012 11:20 sChOuA wrote:
Why you think its much better to raise flop?



Most hands with As will call a raise on flop but not on turn, also by raising flop you can rep As but when you raise turn your range is pretty much 99% made hands. But mostly I think its cuz raising turn looks so strong

 Last edit: 25/01/2012 11:25

Corde   United Kingdom. Jan 25 2012 12:12. Posts 1002

#7


RaSZi   Netherlands. Jan 25 2012 12:26. Posts 4150

Roflmao yeah why not just not ship it on the flop like it's 2007,


TimDawg    United States. Jan 25 2012 12:45. Posts 9261

I dislike turn raise way more than a flop raise

That said I think call/call is fine too and then seeing what happens on the river

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Jan 25 2012 12:58. Posts 10871

wow....
i think raising flop make 1 pair fold ALOT i mean its 3 way the aggresor is gona have someone else behind to act after our raise its frking hard for him to play
even with a set he is likely to flat call
with a flsuh he is likely to falt too anyway or call but if he has a flush we get his money later anyway
the guy in ctrl of the pot is aggressiv so he can bet blank turn like laways...
i dont think he fold AS to weak raise on turn giving the money in the pot or even a set
i mean we still have tons of money behind

i think its dumb to think they go crazy on flop but dont flat turn

 Last edit: 25/01/2012 13:00

Daut    United States. Jan 25 2012 13:43. Posts 8323

i feel like i call call a ton. maybe raise flop some. rarely raise turn, just way too strong looking

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

Jamie217   Canada. Jan 25 2012 14:20. Posts 4237


  On January 25 2012 13:43 Daut wrote:
i feel like i call call a ton. maybe raise flop some. rarely raise turn, just way too strong looking



def agree, I almost always call call here


Stim_Abuser   United States. Jan 25 2012 14:23. Posts 6936

Call call is great when the board runs out well.

But it's really super homosexual when 35% of the time that 4th spade drops and you don't get all that loot from smaller flush/set's.

I mean an aggro reg donks into 3 players near pot, so I think he's often going for a donk/3bet. If he's got something thats gonna fold to a raise from Hero, you probably shouldn't get much money from him on the turn anyways.

I mean is he really gonna put more money in the pot with QJ with two calls on this board this deep OOP.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Jan 25 2012 14:45. Posts 8871

Im only half sure Im not being trolled so I wont comment for now -.-


Twisted    Netherlands. Jan 25 2012 17:30. Posts 10287

lol

i'm definitely calling flop AND calling turn, anything else seems retarded to me


Twisted    Netherlands. Jan 25 2012 17:55. Posts 10287

But that might be cuz i'm playing plo.


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 25 2012 18:19. Posts 2907

not raising the flop here is bad, especially vs jeanditpipi who is a reg that plays back at almost anything.





i drink ur milkshakeLast edit: 25/01/2012 18:22

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jan 25 2012 19:02. Posts 7761

out of curiosity for the people advocating raising flop, what is your range for raising flop here?

Truck-Crash Life 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jan 25 2012 19:31. Posts 2907

mostly value hands, any flush. with the occasional semi bluff

i drink ur milkshake 

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Jan 25 2012 19:36. Posts 7761

so 54s+ for value and AsX for semibluff? any other hands you would semibluff?

Truck-Crash Life 

Maynard!   United States. Jan 25 2012 22:15. Posts 4453

Call/Call obv.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Fayth    Canada. Jan 25 2012 23:06. Posts 9805

I don't like raising turn if you're just gonna call flop, so call call

raising flop is ok depending on how they see you

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

Joe   Czech Republic. Jan 26 2012 01:23. Posts 5891

I probably play call call call in a vacuum, but if it was hu for a while before and you have a lot of aggro dynamic going on, then raise flop is better imo.

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

sChOuA   Switzerland. Jan 26 2012 03:51. Posts 2279

Thanks for all the reponses guys, i got it in on river vs J7 of flush and shipped it.


 


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