PokerStars Game #24814213148: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2009/02/11 0:51:19 ET
Table Corvina V 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: CarnegieKid ($55.55 in chips)
Seat 2: Swings_LOL ($50 in chips)
Seat 3: twprice ($52.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Uptown133 ($52.45 in chips)
Seat 6: ocnits ($51 in chips)
ocnits: posts small blind $0.25
CarnegieKid: posts big blind $0.50
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Uptown133 
Swings_LOL: folds
kobi8007 joins the table at seat #5
twprice: folds
Uptown133: raises $1 to $1.50
ocnits: raises $3.50 to $5
CarnegieKid: folds
Uptown133: raises $47.45 to $52.45 and is all-in
ocnits: calls $46 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.45) returned to Uptown133
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $102.50)
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $102.50)
River (Pot : $102.50)
Showdown
ocnits: shows 
(a pair of Nines)
Uptown133: shows (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
Uptown133 collected $100.50 from pot
Summary
Total pot $102.50 | Rake $2
Board
Seat 1: CarnegieKid (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Swings_LOL folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: twprice folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Uptown133 (button) showed and won ($100.50) with two pair, Jacks and Nines
Seat 6: ocnits (small blind) showed and lost with a pair of Nines
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Uptown . Feb 11 2009 00:55. Posts 3557 | | |
I need a better way to defend against light 3bets... |
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flat and take a flop.. JT plays well postflop in position. |
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mikie0426 Korea (South). Feb 11 2009 00:58. Posts 149 | | |
damn sick all in here... wtf were u thinking?
but u made more money this way hahahaha |
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this isn't how you do it btw lol... you fold out all of his trash and get called by everything that beats you
if you're going to 4bet, do it smaller like 2.5x and give villain room to shove over with bluffs when you have a good hand.
and you have to consider in how many hands he's been 3betting you how often because he just might be running good over a short run of hands. |
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Sicks Macks United States. Feb 11 2009 01:08. Posts 3929 | | | |
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Muhweli Finland. Feb 11 2009 01:09. Posts 10663 | | |
Yeah, you do need to be very good at 3-bet wars cuz 50nl is so aggressive. |
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| Floofy says: my dick is easily bigger than 90% of guys i checked it on the net | Floofy says: i im also doing movements | |
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Muhweli Finland. Feb 11 2009 01:11. Posts 10663 | | |
And yea, 4-bet bluffs mean you fold to a shove. I'm pretty sure you can be like 5 ptbb/100+ winner on 50nl even if you fold everything else than JJ+/AK to 3-bets :D No need to get crazy with crap. Plus, this shove is horrible horrible horrible. You don't want to give your opponent the chance to play perfectly. In fact, I might go as far as to say that that's exactly the opposite of what you want your opponent to do. |
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Uptown . Feb 11 2009 01:13. Posts 3557 | | |
hand sample was like 300, but yea I'm not sure wtf I was thinking here 
What would you do here if you were oop (CO vs BU, etc)? 4bet 2.5x and fold to shove?
edit: say you know villain tends to 3bet over Taggy players' steals, and you have a hand sample of 300 saying he 3bets 7.9% of the time or smth. You have teh same hand OOP, what would you do? |
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| Half Pot! | Last edit: 11/02/2009 01:21 |
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lazymej Canada. Feb 11 2009 03:52. Posts 2897 | | |
He obviously wasn't 3betting light here |
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lazymej Canada. Feb 11 2009 03:57. Posts 2897 | | |
and when you 4b shove like that you actually look pretty weak. Top of your range is like AK imo people are never doing this with AA KK QQ.
If you think he's 3betting you light the easiest thing to do is 4bet him. Or you can raise/check raise (if OOP) all in any flop if you think he's doing it really light and make him fold on the flop. You want to be more sure in this case. 4bet shoving is pretty much the worse thing you can do here because hit lets him play his hand perfectly pretty much. he'll fold worse and snap with better. |
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