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lachlan   Australia. Dec 27 2007 10:29. Posts 6991


Hi LPizzle.net

im posting because im embarassed as fuck. this month i've played nearly 50k hands yet im not even up. most of it was NL10 but at the start it was NL25 aswell.

im starting to get really pissed off at losing on NL10 and i lost another 6 buyins today which has me really wanting to reconsider my game and so on. i think i was just running fine and so became lazy and stacked off with any overpair, etc.

so i am asking... no begging... no.. pleading that some of you who have annihilated NL10 before have a look at some of my hands and tell me your thoughts!

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OK. Hands. for hands, i was thinking about picking out some good ones. but then i thought fuck it, i'll just post the top 10 losing hands with greatest net $ lost. but then i realised most of them are coolers or suckouts so here are the ones that i have myself to blame for (top 10).



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(NL25)

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Any comments on these hands i will treasure, thanks. just need to get my confidence back and try to see if im doing anything stupid and not realising it. also should stop selling my friend Pstars money for real cash, kind of hindering me and my mission to stay at 25nl



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TheTrees   United States. Dec 27 2007 10:45. Posts 1592

my MSN....madsnooker11111@hotmail.com

easier to talk on there.


twotimesopt   United States. Dec 27 2007 10:56. Posts 2393

hand 1 is standard and you know it
hand 2 raise pf and lead flop, money is always going in here just a cooler
hand 3 is fine
hand 4 is standard
hand 7 is a little weird, depends on player but it's nl10 so i am probably not folding here
hand 8: yep, standard
hand 9: lol, snap call and celebrate
hand 10: looks good, you can fold to his c/r on the river sometimes but w/o a read here i'm probably since it's a small raise
hand 11: check turn for pot control, as played fold river

quit tryin to be a repo man - definitely -EV and negative expectancy - AvidGambler 

locoo   Peru. Dec 27 2007 11:22. Posts 4561

eh.. why are you posting coolers and bad beats lol

bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte 

ShaunR   United States. Dec 27 2007 11:44. Posts 604

Your play is fine here, so you're probably losing money in other ways. Continuation betting when you shouldnt / floating and folding too much / etc?


ShaunR   United States. Dec 27 2007 11:46. Posts 604

Also it could just be bad luck. And are you being careful with table selection?


Yugless    United States. Dec 27 2007 12:18. Posts 7174

raise the flop in hand 2, lol@his river check in hand 4 i think you played it fine though, hand 7 is 100% spew almost always, hand 8 is foldable vs some players, hand 10 is the easiest fold ever, i dont see much value in betting the turn in hand 11 and you could fold to a big river bet, call that small one

shoving the turn is ok in hand 4 because if he's drawing you're committing yourself by making that turn bet but he is able to fold on the river if he misses, while you have to call his river all in if he hits

Baal - look is talking hah. Last edit: 27/12/2007 12:25

Critterer   United Kingdom. Dec 27 2007 12:19. Posts 5337

show stats plz

LudaHid: dam.ned dam.ned dam.ned. LudaHid: dam.ned northwooden as..hole 

JoeDeertay   United States. Dec 27 2007 12:42. Posts 1730

1) standard, although if he is REALLLLLLLLLLLLLY nitty you can maybe think about folding (very rare though).
2) go to value town on that flop. You have the current nuts and if someone else has a big hand you are missing value and just asking to get outdrawn. As played, I don'tm like stacking off with flushes for 3bets on paired boards.
3) I think you played this a little aggressively, maybe raise to 10 on the flop and fold to a reraise. If he is some kind of monkey though this is fine.
4) fine, although you could make a case for checking behind depending on the player....you DO only have a 1pair hand.
5) same hand as 4?
6) same hand as 4?
7) I'd put in a nice rais on the flop to see where I'm at and fold to an over the top raise. As played I'd fold turn.
8) I don't really know with this one. I'd say it'd pretty player dependent here.
9) standard cooler, you played it fine.
10) I don't like how you played this hand at all. I wouldn't have raised preflop, but with it being shorthanded you can make an argument for it. Bet more on flop, throw out another bet on the turn, and if you don't win it there just give up. You can't call this river raise as played.
11) You overplayed this hand as well. I'd give this up after you get called on the flop, maybe call one more bet against a LAG kind of player.

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Bejamin1   Canada. Dec 27 2007 14:36. Posts 7042

Find some monies and get a coach, or ask one of the players to mentor you or something. Posting hands and hoping for a few good comments will help you a little bit, but not much. What you really need to do is figure out a style of play that just crushes the stake your in, if you need a coach to do that, then so be it.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

lachlan   Australia. Dec 27 2007 19:22. Posts 6991

thanks heaps everyone. i dont like to use excuses like im running bad so this will help me reconsider my play alot :D

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PokerDoc88   Australia. Jan 02 2008 23:07. Posts 3527

half of these hands are coolers, although something I noticed in hand 10 which might be a massive leak for you leading to many "suckouts": On the turn, it is a 10. Notice the flop texture...there are quite a lot of draws, and he can check-call oop there with any draw or any pair. You still have top pair top kicker from the flop, that 10 should hardly scare you: you should easily bet this turn for 2/3 pot and fold if you get raised.


PokerDoc88   Australia. Jan 02 2008 23:10. Posts 3527

Also, an even bigger leak I notice in hand 10: You check the turn but decide to bet the river: Think about the range he calls you on flop with:

8x, 2x, 4x, flush draws, or straight draws. All missed draws are folding to your bet on the river, the 10 will often scare 8x and 4x into folding, and 2x is going to be coy and check-raise you (which in all honesty I usually expect the trips to lead river, but my point is, there is hardly any value to be had in betting here). If you have a read that the villain likes to call marginally with 8x and 4x, then the point remains that you should be betting the turn.


PokerDoc88   Australia. Jan 02 2008 23:14. Posts 3527

Also, for now I would avoid raising hands like A8 even in late position, because as you hopefully realize from my commentary on your play in that hand, you don't know how to play such hands post flop. The difference between AK and A8 is that firstly, A8 never flops tptk, and often if you pair your 8, there will be higher cards to scare you into checking. How ever, if you ever get a piece with AK, it is ALWAYS tptk, and tptk is a very easy hand to play because you can just bet bet bet with confidence.


 



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