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the_body   . Nov 30 2011 11:33. Posts 29

Submitted by : the_body

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$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, November 29, 06:31:48 ET 2011
Table Lorcia III Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: schegger1982 $442.90 USD
Seat 2: navas10 $80.00 USD
Seat 3: Hero $286.50 USD
Seat 4: NCSU2012 $214.65 USD
Seat 5: eddy893 $100.00 USD
Seat 6: melnic $688.95 USD
navas10 posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
Hero posts big blind [$2.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [KdAc ]
NCSU2012 folds
eddy893 folds
melnic folds
schegger1982 raises [$6.00 USD]
navas10 folds
Hero raises [$22.00 USD]
schegger1982 calls [$18.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $47.00)

   3dTc5d
Hero bets [$24.00 USD]
schegger1982 calls [$24.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $95.00)

   3dTc5d9d
Hero bets [$64.00 USD]
schegger1982 calls [$64.00 USD]

River (Pot : $223.00)

   3dTc5d9d6s
Hero bets [$174.50 USD]





Villian is a semifish 42/27/1.3, opens the button 55% but only folds 21 % to 3 bets, at the time the hand was played i didnt see a showdown yet, but he cold called a 4 bet pre twice and and gave up on the flop both times.

In this hand he snapcalls me preflop, snaps the flop and snaps the river. Usually snapdecisions are weak made hands or draws. Is this a good spot for a 3 barrel ?

Since his range is so huge, i should be able to fold out everything worse then top pair along the way right ? After he snaps the turn i doubt he ever has a flushdraw.


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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Nov 30 2011 17:45. Posts 5365

even on a pretty bad board to 3barrel a fish it's prob still profitable. I can't remember the last time i 2barreled a fish.

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Minsk   United States. Nov 30 2011 19:40. Posts 1558

dont mind this as long as you think he believes you & doesnt have a flush


the_body   . Dec 01 2011 01:40. Posts 29


  On November 30 2011 18:40 Minsk wrote:
dont mind this as long as you think he believes you & doesnt have a flush



im about 99% he doesnt have a flush he would have at least thought for a bit on the turn instead of instaturbocalling, if he belives me or not is hard to tell, didnt really play a hand with him prior to this



TalentedTom    Canada. Dec 01 2011 21:26. Posts 20070

if he never folds to 4-bets i'd 3-bet to $36 or so

as played uhhh... i hate this

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TalentedTom    Canada. Dec 01 2011 21:28. Posts 20070

from what you suggested earlier, this is a fit or fold fish, the fact that he didnt fold the flop means he fit (or making a steam float), considering how often he has folded to other players hes looking to give it away, only way I think he folds if he has something like KJo, QJo, KQo with a diamond which missed the river, dont think we are folding out a pair ever

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EvilSky    Czech Republic. Dec 02 2011 12:18. Posts 8918

looks like a pretty good spot to 2barrel but give up once the river bricks


patti   United States. Dec 03 2011 02:29. Posts 550

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a 1 and done, or commit to 3?

I feel like barreling 2 is the worst option here


patti   United States. Dec 03 2011 02:29. Posts 550

Mainly for everything tt stated, he not folding any pair to anything less than 3 barrels and most likely folds air on the flop


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Dec 03 2011 06:16. Posts 8918

I just feel that the turn bet is profitable in isolation given our equity and his wide range.Once we get to this river its a new spot entirely because we didnt construct the hand in a way that a turn bet sets up a profitable river bet and we can go ahead and give up (or check bluffcatch if were feeling crazy). Most of the time its pretty bad to 2barrel and give up but this seems like a rare case in which it might be the better line, altho I dont think firing again on the river is that horrible fwiw.


the_body   . Dec 03 2011 15:24. Posts 29


  On December 03 2011 05:16 EvilSky wrote:
I just feel that the turn bet is profitable in isolation given our equity and his wide range.Once we get to this river its a new spot entirely because we didnt construct the hand in a way that a turn bet sets up a profitable river bet and we can go ahead and give up (or check bluffcatch if were feeling crazy). Most of the time its pretty bad to 2barrel and give up but this seems like a rare case in which it might be the better line, altho I dont think firing again on the river is that horrible fwiw.



Would really hate to 2 barrel and than give up just feels like burning money i^d rather bet flop an be done. You might be right that in this hand it would an ok play.

I kinda felt that on the river he has a lot of very weak hands that have a diamond, A2-A5s wie Ad in there 7d5 8dx etc with which he always calls the turn, i doubt he did any handreading. His thought process would go like "i have 4-5th pair there is a a flush and overcards i foldz".


the_body   . Dec 03 2011 15:26. Posts 29


  On December 01 2011 20:26 TalentedTom wrote:
if he never folds to 4-bets i'd 3-bet to $36 or so

as played uhhh... i hate this



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the_body   . Dec 03 2011 15:29. Posts 29

Thx for your help guys.

RESULTS: Villian tanks and calls with 99, the fact that he tanked makes me feel a little better about it. He might have foldet 3x or 5x hands here.



YoMeR   United States. Dec 03 2011 17:30. Posts 12438

lol fuck he tanked w 99? then you had a shitton of fold equity imo.

in general I wouldn't advocate bluffing a fish but of course there's exceptions as some fish fold a little too often cuz well...they're fish ;o

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TimDawg    United States. Dec 23 2011 09:34. Posts 10197


  On December 02 2011 11:18 EvilSky wrote:
looks like a pretty good spot to 2barrel but give up once the river bricks

agreed

Also there's nothing wrong with betting the flop but I check here a good amt vs a fish. I find most are just content to check down when they whiff the flop

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Mariuslol   Norway. Dec 26 2011 21:39. Posts 4742

Seems awful, if he's a fish, he'll never fold the turn if he called the flop I think.


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wobbly_au   Australia. Dec 29 2011 06:50. Posts 6540

since when is a guy with 42% vpip a semi fish?

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el_tilon   Canada. Dec 30 2011 15:35. Posts 296

I don't like this board to make a profitable 3 barrel vs a fish, it connect some draws every street, and it's difficult for fishes fold top pair, or even a pair like 77/99 I think that's possible wait for better spot to take all his money. Don't despair.

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HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Dec 30 2011 23:16. Posts 10896


  On December 29 2011 05:50 wobbly_au wrote:
since when is a guy with 42% vpip a semi fish?


i guess hero is a quarter fish


 



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