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the_body   . Nov 30 2011 11:33. Posts 29 | | | |
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Nov 30 2011 17:45. Posts 5365 | | |
even on a pretty bad board to 3barrel a fish it's prob still profitable. I can't remember the last time i 2barreled a fish. |
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Minsk   United States. Nov 30 2011 19:40. Posts 1558 | | |
dont mind this as long as you think he believes you & doesnt have a flush |
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the_body   . Dec 01 2011 01:40. Posts 29 | | |
| | On November 30 2011 18:40 Minsk wrote:
dont mind this as long as you think he believes you & doesnt have a flush |
im about 99% he doesnt have a flush he would have at least thought for a bit on the turn instead of instaturbocalling, if he belives me or not is hard to tell, didnt really play a hand with him prior to this
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TalentedTom   Canada. Dec 01 2011 21:26. Posts 20070 | | |
if he never folds to 4-bets i'd 3-bet to $36 or so
as played uhhh... i hate this |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Dec 01 2011 21:28. Posts 20070 | | |
from what you suggested earlier, this is a fit or fold fish, the fact that he didnt fold the flop means he fit (or making a steam float), considering how often he has folded to other players hes looking to give it away, only way I think he folds if he has something like KJo, QJo, KQo with a diamond which missed the river, dont think we are folding out a pair ever |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Dec 02 2011 12:18. Posts 8918 | | |
looks like a pretty good spot to 2barrel but give up once the river bricks |
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patti   United States. Dec 03 2011 02:29. Posts 550 | | |
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this a 1 and done, or commit to 3?
I feel like barreling 2 is the worst option here |
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patti   United States. Dec 03 2011 02:29. Posts 550 | | |
Mainly for everything tt stated, he not folding any pair to anything less than 3 barrels and most likely folds air on the flop |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Dec 03 2011 06:16. Posts 8918 | | |
I just feel that the turn bet is profitable in isolation given our equity and his wide range.Once we get to this river its a new spot entirely because we didnt construct the hand in a way that a turn bet sets up a profitable river bet and we can go ahead and give up (or check bluffcatch if were feeling crazy). Most of the time its pretty bad to 2barrel and give up but this seems like a rare case in which it might be the better line, altho I dont think firing again on the river is that horrible fwiw. |
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the_body   . Dec 03 2011 15:24. Posts 29 | | |
| | On December 03 2011 05:16 EvilSky wrote:
I just feel that the turn bet is profitable in isolation given our equity and his wide range.Once we get to this river its a new spot entirely because we didnt construct the hand in a way that a turn bet sets up a profitable river bet and we can go ahead and give up (or check bluffcatch if were feeling crazy). Most of the time its pretty bad to 2barrel and give up but this seems like a rare case in which it might be the better line, altho I dont think firing again on the river is that horrible fwiw. |
Would really hate to 2 barrel and than give up just feels like burning money i^d rather bet flop an be done. You might be right that in this hand it would an ok play.
I kinda felt that on the river he has a lot of very weak hands that have a diamond, A2-A5s wie Ad in there 7d5 8dx etc with which he always calls the turn, i doubt he did any handreading. His thought process would go like "i have 4-5th pair there is a a flush and overcards i foldz".
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the_body   . Dec 03 2011 15:26. Posts 29 | | |
| | On December 01 2011 20:26 TalentedTom wrote:
if he never folds to 4-bets i'd 3-bet to $36 or so
as played uhhh... i hate this |
Damn table ninja sometimes stops me from thinking, obv i should have raised a lot bigger pre :-) |
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the_body   . Dec 03 2011 15:29. Posts 29 | | |
Thx for your help guys.
RESULTS: Villian tanks and calls with 99, the fact that he tanked makes me feel a little better about it. He might have foldet 3x or 5x hands here.
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YoMeR   United States. Dec 03 2011 17:30. Posts 12438 | | |
lol fuck he tanked w 99? then you had a shitton of fold equity imo.
in general I wouldn't advocate bluffing a fish but of course there's exceptions as some fish fold a little too often cuz well...they're fish ;o |
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TimDawg   United States. Dec 23 2011 09:34. Posts 10197 | | |
| | On December 02 2011 11:18 EvilSky wrote:
looks like a pretty good spot to 2barrel but give up once the river bricks |
agreed
Also there's nothing wrong with betting the flop but I check here a good amt vs a fish. I find most are just content to check down when they whiff the flop |
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Mariuslol   Norway. Dec 26 2011 21:39. Posts 4742 | | |
Seems awful, if he's a fish, he'll never fold the turn if he called the flop I think. |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Dec 29 2011 06:50. Posts 6540 | | |
since when is a guy with 42% vpip a semi fish? |
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el_tilon   Canada. Dec 30 2011 15:35. Posts 296 | | |
I don't like this board to make a profitable 3 barrel vs a fish, it connect some draws every street, and it's difficult for fishes fold top pair, or even a pair like 77/99 I think that's possible wait for better spot to take all his money. Don't despair. |
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| | On December 29 2011 05:50 wobbly_au wrote:
since when is a guy with 42% vpip a semi fish? |
i guess hero is a quarter fish |
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