Top Set vs River 3bet deeeep.

On September 23 2011 07:29 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On September 23 2011 01:54 JonnyCosMo wrote: You have a bluff catcher or do you beat some of his value range here? If you have any doubt weather someone can be valuebetting worse then i think that makes it a call.

My thoughts were that we have a bluff catcher, was just curious if other people felt differently about it.

Hmm, probably make it 4000. Flatting might be fine though.

I think cosmo's the reg and his opponent raised to 750 on river so he shoved thinking he'd have to fold QQ and down but didn't. cosmo always covers everyone in his HH's ^_^.

I don't think it's impossible for the player to shove JJJ over the river raise since it looks thin-valueish and not really polarized. But yeah unless there's a weird dynamic between the two players i think that JJJ shove will be rare and you aren't beating any value hands.

LoL whoosel, same thing about jonny being villain in the hand occurred to me as well for the same reason

On September 24 2011 06:17 thewh00sel wrote: I think cosmo's the reg and his opponent raised to 750 on river so he shoved thinking he'd have to fold QQ and down but didn't. cosmo always covers everyone in his HH's ^_^. I don't think it's impossible for the player to shove JJJ over the river raise since it looks thin-valueish and not really polarized. But yeah unless there's a weird dynamic between the two players i think that JJJ shove will be rare and you aren't beating any value hands.

Yes I am Villan in the hand. Interesting spot for my opponent thou. Hero did have QQ, and is a semi-competent live reg who usually plays real deep.

Honestly though I'd call

On September 24 2011 06:17 thewh00sel wrote: I think cosmo's the reg and his opponent raised to 750 on river so he shoved thinking he'd have to fold QQ and down but didn't. cosmo always covers everyone in his HH's ^_^. I don't think it's impossible for the player to shove JJJ over the river raise since it looks thin-valueish and not really polarized. But yeah unless there's a weird dynamic between the two players i think that JJJ shove will be rare and you aren't beating any value hands.

another clue is that i don't really see any merit to flatting QQ in a live game such as this one.

If i think he thinks Im only calling with a straight, I'd snap call. If not, I'll pitch it. No info? Snap call. Hate ur river sizing though. What r u doing min raising. Pls man up and throw the chips in like a real man so u have no other option but to get it in.

--- Nuked ---

I would call but wouldn't feel great about it

On September 24 2011 10:22 JonnyCosMo wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2011 06:17 thewh00sel wrote: I think cosmo's the reg and his opponent raised to 750 on river so he shoved thinking he'd have to fold QQ and down but didn't. cosmo always covers everyone in his HH's ^_^. I don't think it's impossible for the player to shove JJJ over the river raise since it looks thin-valueish and not really polarized. But yeah unless there's a weird dynamic between the two players i think that JJJ shove will be rare and you aren't beating any value hands. Yes I am Villan in the hand. Interesting spot for my opponent thou. Hero did have QQ, and is a semi-competent live reg who usually plays real deep.

What did u shove here with? Just out of curiosity

On October 07 2011 14:00 sTrAtO wrote: Show nested quote + On September 24 2011 10:22 JonnyCosMo wrote:   On September 24 2011 06:17 thewh00sel wrote: I think cosmo's the reg and his opponent raised to 750 on river so he shoved thinking he'd have to fold QQ and down but didn't. cosmo always covers everyone in his HH's ^_^. I don't think it's impossible for the player to shove JJJ over the river raise since it looks thin-valueish and not really polarized. But yeah unless there's a weird dynamic between the two players i think that JJJ shove will be rare and you aren't beating any value hands. Yes I am Villan in the hand. Interesting spot for my opponent thou. Hero did have QQ, and is a semi-competent live reg who usually plays real deep. What did u shove here with? Just out of curiosity

a straight obviously

I say Cosmo was bluffing and got caught! :O

I had the

What else did you have?

i told clay in private that i was not folding to cosmo lol

Are you the villain in this hand, Doomer? Wtf? ?? ? ? ? //

no cuz if i was id of called and cosmo would be sadfaced

sicko rebluff, dont really like it though

only way i like is if hes too tight to have T9 on flop and capable / likes to turn his missed 78/67/57/77/99 into bluffs on river...then its really good

wouldnt try rebluffing made hands though...its too narrow and a lot of 9T's

On November 01 2011 23:26 Minsk wrote: sicko rebluff, dont really like it though only way i like is if hes too tight to have T9 on flop and capable / likes to turn his missed 78/67/57/77/99 into bluffs on river...then its really good wouldnt try rebluffing made hands though...its too narrow and a lot of 9T's

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