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InsideMan   United Kingdom. Aug 26 2010 12:16. Posts 159

I haven't tangled much with villain so far. I believe he may be a new reg on the site or an old reg who changed his screen name so I guess I'm virtually readless in this hand, I only know he is a regular.
After leading the flop I am in my first dilemma. It's hard for me to be light on this turn and I am not sure how light villain is willing to call here. I am not entirely sure what he does here with AA, KK, QQ on the flop. I guess he will peel one more with hands like QdJx, TxAd, 9xAd, Jx9x. He may also peel with Ad5x, AdKx, AxKd, which depends a little on what he does with AK on the flop or AQ for the matter.
By the river I assume he can have some flushes, KQ and 78 that he didn't raise the turn with. I think if he got here with AA, KK he may also be betting it since it's tough for me to be really strong here (atleast that's what I expect him to think).
Thoughts on the hand? Thanks in advance.

$5/$10 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by http://weaktight.com/

Stacks:
UTG $1,594
CO $2,123
BTN $1,000
Hero (SB) $1,351
BB $525

Pre-Flop: ($15, 5 players) Hero is SB 9c Jc
2 folds, BTN raises to $30, Hero calls $25, 1 fold

Flop: Th 5d 9d ($70, 2 players)
Hero bets $40, BTN calls $40

Turn: Jd ($150, 2 players)
Hero bets $110, BTN calls $110

River: 2h ($370, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $176

Final Pot: $546

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EvilSky    Czech Republic. Aug 27 2010 14:42. Posts 8918

On the turn even if you cant really be light hes still gonna call with worse hands like pair+fd QT etc so the turn bet I dont mind. On the river however he will most likely take a showdown with most worse hands but the small betsize makes it a little more compelling to call, so I dunno you should analise his range and the pot odds. Just from looking at it it feels like a close fold.


EvilSky    Czech Republic. Aug 27 2010 14:47. Posts 8918

Actually this might be a call, dunno you should do the math.


kaboom   Canada. Aug 27 2010 20:29. Posts 261

wtf call

SHIP OUT 

TimDawg    United States. Aug 27 2010 23:02. Posts 10197

I'd just fold or 3bet pre

Would prob just bet the river having lead the flop

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Aug 28 2010 17:45. Posts 8623

I think I'd slightly prefer openshoveing the river to check/folding.


locoo   Peru. Aug 29 2010 13:03. Posts 4566

just call, unsignificant pot given that u have 2 pair...

also i would just bet again river, might even c/raise with ur hand tbh

bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte 

GiYoM   Korea (South). Aug 30 2010 05:44. Posts 455

i bet bigger when i lead from the blinds.


JonnyCosMo   United States. Aug 30 2010 06:41. Posts 7292

Not understanding the river check

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Fayth    Canada. Aug 30 2010 16:50. Posts 10085

wtf lol snap call

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ShaneG   . Aug 30 2010 18:14. Posts 11

Hand was played incorrectly on two streets (preflop and river). After you check the river and he bets, you have to call. Why would you fold?


InsideMan   United Kingdom. Sep 03 2010 05:02. Posts 159

Thanks for all the replies.

@ TimDawg, locoo and JOnnyCosMo

How wide do you think he is calling on this river if we bet again? I think checkraise is an interesting line here locoo, thanks for the input.

@ ShaneG

How can you just say calling J9s in the SB vs Button is incorrect. Can you explain this a little bit more.



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kaboom   Canada. Sep 03 2010 08:03. Posts 261

checkraise is borderline retarded

just fucken bet, but check/calling here looks good too, he's gonna value bet worse so often.

SHIP OUT 

X sawseech   Canada. Sep 03 2010 12:39. Posts 3182

uh donk it again maybe? gee whiz.

lets go fucking mental la la la la lets go fucking mental lets go fucking mental lala la la 

JonnyCosMo   United States. Sep 05 2010 15:24. Posts 7292


  On September 03 2010 04:02 InsideMan wrote:
Thanks for all the replies.

@ TimDawg, locoo and JOnnyCosMo

How wide do you think he is calling on this river if we bet again? I think checkraise is an interesting line here locoo, thanks for the input.

@ ShaneG

How can you just say calling J9s in the SB vs Button is incorrect. Can you explain this a little bit more.






im inclined to believe most people are leaning towards the side of hero calling rather than hero folding... so pretty much anything w/ showdown value that he called the turn with here is most likely going to call the river imo.

By checking the river, you allow all his marginal calls to check back, and you're probably running like ~50% vs the range he bets the river with (since only a handful of combinations have missed a draw on this board and don't have enough showdown value to check back river and decide to bluff when you check) . And since we've gone over the fact that you probably should never fold this spot once you check... a better option might be to bet yourself.

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUserLast edit: 05/09/2010 15:31

Jamie217   Canada. Sep 05 2010 23:34. Posts 4351


  On September 03 2010 04:02 InsideMan wrote:

How can you just say calling J9s in the SB vs Button is incorrect. Can you explain this a little bit more.






that would be fine btn vs sb OOP not so much


 



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