[NL50 FR] 3 hands ( 2bluffs) line check.

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hand 1
villan in hand 1 is 16/14 and seemed like a standart tag.
I had an agressive image at the table. Thought process was that villan would flat his weak/medium aces and he would have 3 bet his stronger aces pf because I was raising a lot, so I put him on a medium pp or a suited connectors with mid pair on the flop. I call flop expecting turn to go check/check so I can bluff river representing AT+.

hand 2
villan in hand 2 is 22/8
Not much info on villan but he seemed kinda fishy. I didn't see much he would take this line with except for A7 so I folded.

hand 3
villan in hand 3 is 13/11
From what I'd seen he bet/bet/shoves overpairs and generaly plays agressive. When he checked turn I thought he had a pp lower then kings or AQ, so I decided to represent a floated AK or JQ and double barrel. The 9 in the end was a good card to proceed with my double barrel.
I called flop because he could be c-beting AK/AQ. I also thought he would shut down with those hands if called on the flop.



comments?
Thanks in advance for any input.


edit: like I said on my second post in this thread:

It was a 3h session and those were the only hands I did some fancier plays.

Looks like you've got some mild FPS going on, but your reasoning isn't too bad and you didn't do anything too majorly spewy.

Hand 1: His raise is kinda smallish and the board is dry, so you figure 'either he's got a set or he's trying to take me off my hand here knowing that I cbet my entire range'. I think you can add AQ/AK to his range, no reason to think he would always 3bet them here. Against an agressive thinking player I don't think this is too bad, but I do think he's not bluffing here very often, his range is probably weighted towards value-hands so you're going to go check/call, check/fold turn to a 2nd barrel too often for this to be profitable. Then there's the times he decides to check back AJ or AQ on the turn and calls your river bluff. So yeah, he really needs to be bluffing a lot and just giving up for this to be profitable..

Hand 2: Why no raise on the flop? You're missing value from a 7, 66 or 55, 88, 99, TT and straight draws here. If he's fishy I try to get it in here, no way he's folding all the other PP's, probably not even a 7. As played I agree the river is a fold.

Hand 3 is kinda mmmeh.. He's got more combos of overcards than overpairs so occasionally bluffing here is ok, but I much prefer a raise to a float, makes it easier.
As played the turn K would be a bad card for you, but he checks it, which is kind of weird. At this point it looks like he's giving up so I don't mind the bet. After he calls it really looks like JJ, maybe a nittily played KQ. I disagree about the 9 being a good card. If he is a bit of a thinking player he knows you can't have it cause your preflop range doesn't contain a lot of 9's to begin with, plus you bet turn when the K comes which would be very weird for a 9. It also makes a set less likely. You're really not repping much here. Would you ever call QJ here preflop? Wouldn't you 3bet AK most of the time? You've either got a full house, a missed draw or a random bluff. I'm actually surprised he folded here after calling turn.

It was a 3h session and those were the only hands I did some fancier plays. I was running good and trusted a little more on my reads.

hand 1: I felt he was bluffing a decent amount, that's why i did it. The plan was to check/fold turn if he did bet it.

hand 2: you'r right. should have raised the flop. Don't rly remember why I didn't.

hand 3: I say the 9 is a good card because I can continue to rep AK. It doesn't change much, won't complete his draws or help almost any of his hands. Your are right that I would 3 bet AK some of the time but not always, not agaisnt a 13/11 raising utg. I'd be putting myself in a though spot if i get 4bet pf and by calling I could play AK in position. I could also call JQ suited some of the time. I have position, good implied odds, it's not very likely someone will squeaze a 13/11 raising utg and people with similar hands will be more likely to call making it a multi-way pot.

On March 21 2010 12:45 FollowTheStorm wrote: It was a 3h session and those were the only hands I did some fancier plays. I was running good and trusted a little more on my reads. hand 1: I felt he was bluffing a decent amount, that's why i did it. The plan was to check/fold turn if he did bet it. hand 2: you'r right. should have raised the flop. Don't rly remember why I didn't. hand 3: I say the 9 is a good card because I can continue to rep AK. It doesn't change much, won't complete his draws or help almost any of his hands. Your are right that I would 3 bet AK some of the time but not always, not agaisnt a 13/11 raising utg. I'd be putting myself in a though spot if i get 4bet pf and by calling I could play AK in position. I could also call JQ suited some of the time. I have position, good implied odds, it's not very likely someone will squeaze a 13/11 raising utg and people with similar hands will be more likely to call making it a multi-way pot.

i dont see how u could ever rep AK on the third hand. Will u really flat ak pre and float that flop vs an utg raise? And why would u float that flop? U think his range is that wide it almost always misses that flop? If so, 3bet pre is a must imo.
Bleh maby i shouldnt comment right now, I will have a look at it tomorrow.

in hand 3, maybe I shouldn't have floated that flop? But after that, given that I don't have a very bluffy image, I think he can't really put AK or JQ out of my range and has to fold a decent % of the time. If not AK or JQ, then maybe QcKc or some other club draw with the Kc or 9c that beats his flop overpair. Sometimes even 9Ts..?