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gororokgororok   Netherlands. Feb 08 2010 16:07. Posts 3941

I'm not super familiar with deep play that's why I like some advice on this hand.
My question is about the flop and river betsizing. I think I should have raised to $160 on the flop. Or should I just 3x it? The reason I didn't make it super big is because it's unlikely I would be bluffing when raising that big. Stupid logic?
What about riverbetsizing?

Thanks in advance!

Submitted by : gororokgororok

PokerStars Game #39431947427: Holdem No Limit ($2/$4 USD) - 2010/02/08 13:33:18 ET
Table Sabauda V 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: qwertyman1 ($434.70 in chips)
Seat 2: gororok ($1176.70 in chips)
Seat 3: Gogols Nose ($961 in chips)
Seat 4: Chip-phage ($418 in chips)
Seat 5: #1 Mathlete ($400 in chips)
Seat 6: Pejsek ($433.15 in chips)
Gogols Nose: posts small blind $2
Chip-phage: posts big blind $4

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to gororok JsJh
#1 Mathlete: folds
Pejsek: folds
qwertyman1: folds
gororok: raises $6 to $10
Gogols Nose: raises $30 to $40
Chip-phage: folds
gororok: calls $30

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $84.00)

   QdJc6d
Gogols Nose: bets $60
gororok: raises $80 to $140
Gogols Nose: calls $80

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $364.00)

   QdJc6d9d
Gogols Nose: checks
gororok: checks

River (Pot : $364.00)

   QdJc6d9d9c
Gogols Nose: checks
gororok: bets $280
Gogols Nose: calls $280

Showdown
gororok: shows JsJh (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
Gogols Nose: mucks hand
gororok collected $921 from pot

Summary
Total pot $924 | Rake $3
Board  QdJc6d9d9c
Seat 1: qwertyman1 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: gororok (button) showed JsJh and won ($921) with a full house, Jacks full of Nines
Seat 3: Gogols Nose (small blind) mucked Ad8d
Seat 4: Chip-phage (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: #1 Mathlete folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Pejsek folded before Flop (didnt bet)



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gororokgororok   Netherlands. Feb 08 2010 16:16. Posts 3941

And I would like to know if in general I should bet this turn. Not sure if I would get value from aces or kings... perfect question for TalentedTom?!

 Last edit: 08/02/2010 16:16

palak   United States. Feb 08 2010 16:46. Posts 4601

flop 190-210
turn check
river 450 if pot 484..something huge, he's calling or he isn't...i see no reason to try and valuebet small to get like KK to call or something, if he has a flush he's calling river, if he doesn't he's folding it.

as played would make river at least 350

idk villain...sure tons of ppl on this site have reads on villain

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquariumLast edit: 08/02/2010 16:46

TalentedTom    Canada. Feb 08 2010 16:57. Posts 20070

flat flop flat turn shove river ;0

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TalentedTom    Canada. Feb 08 2010 16:58. Posts 20070

once you reraise the flop, it tends to play out like this very often, which is fine also obv

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

gororokgororok   Netherlands. Feb 08 2010 17:45. Posts 3941


  On February 08 2010 15:57 TalentedTom wrote:
flat flop flat turn shove river ;0



hmm i like this.


gororokgororok   Netherlands. Feb 08 2010 18:48. Posts 3941


  On February 08 2010 15:46 palak wrote:
idk villain...sure tons of ppl on this site have reads on villain



so far villian seems very competent. he showed me he's a thinking player in some postflop spots where he owned me pretty bad.
he's fairly tight preflop but plays his hands well. other then that i have yet to discover.


royalsu   Canada. Feb 08 2010 19:01. Posts 3233

i dunno if this will work but just an idea: bet 100-140 on the river.

I'm not sure if you can credibly rep a low flush since you checked the turn, but I'm just wondering if he can resist reraising a small river bet.


Maynard!   United States. Feb 08 2010 23:29. Posts 4453

gogol's nose always has owned my soul. I am finally starting to figure out his shit tho. Only took 3 years 8)

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

SpasticInk   Sweden. Feb 09 2010 00:58. Posts 6298


  On February 08 2010 18:01 royalsu wrote:
i dunno if this will work but just an idea: bet 100-140 on the river.

I'm not sure if you can credibly rep a low flush since you checked the turn, but I'm just wondering if he can resist reraising a small river bet.



Isn't that kind of results oriented against a very narrow hand range.

What about his AxAx, AdQx, KK hands etc. Do you think he will ever raise any of these hands on the river for value?


gororokgororok   Netherlands. Feb 09 2010 08:47. Posts 3941


  On February 08 2010 22:29 Maynard! wrote:
gogol's nose always has owned my soul. I am finally starting to figure out his shit tho. Only took 3 years 8)



feel free to share ! :D


 



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