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hiems   United States. Feb 08 2010 15:10. Posts 2979

Submitted by : hiems

PokerStars Game #39424753901: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2010/02/08 10:49:36 ET
Table Epeigeus III 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Belden777 ($10 in chips)
Seat 2: crashbash-37 ($8.45 in chips)
Seat 3: timgod ($53.20 in chips)
Seat 4: da_sonic ($11.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($11.05 in chips)
Seat 6: danjros ($19.50 in chips)
crashbash-37: posts small blind $0.05
timgod: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards
Dealt to Hero AdKc
da_sonic: folds
Hero: raises $0.30 to $0.40
danjros: folds
Belden777: folds
crashbash-37: calls $0.35
timgod: folds

Flop (Pot : $0.90)

   Jd4dAh
crashbash-37: checks
Hero: bets $0.70
crashbash-37: calls $0.70

Turn (Pot : $2.30)

   Jd4dAh4c
crashbash-37: checks
Hero: bets $1.70
crashbash-37: calls $1.70

River (Pot : $5.70)

   Jd4dAh4cTh
crashbash-37: checks
Hero: bets $2.50
crashbash-37: calls $2.50



Submitted by : hiems

PokerStars Game #39435891045: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2010/02/08 14:44:21 ET
Table Ialmenus 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: ahmedo25 ($10.35 in chips)
Seat 2: lestatos ($11.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Xilef030 ($10 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($10 in chips)
Seat 5: rickus28 ($3.80 in chips)
Seat 6: Yshaana ($7.45 in chips)
Yshaana: posts small blind $0.05
ahmedo25: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards
Dealt to Hero KsQc
lestatos: folds
Xilef030: raises $0.20 to $0.30
Hero: calls $0.30
rickus28: folds
Yshaana: folds
ahmedo25: calls $0.20

Flop (Pot : $0.95)

   4cKh7d
ahmedo25: bets $0.40
Xilef030: folds
Hero: calls $0.40

Turn (Pot : $1.75)

   4cKh7d5d
ahmedo25: bets $0.40
Hero: raises $1.90 to $2.30
ahmedo25: calls $1.90

River (Pot : $6.35)

   4cKh7d5dAs
ahmedo25: checks
Hero: bets $3.70



Hand 1:
only been heere 8 hands. Hes been pretty loose so far.
ptr says hes pretty loose, not too aggressive...Should I have bet bigger on the river?

Hand 2:
no stats 3 hands in
i checked his ptr and it goes straight down
On the river I expect him to have alot of mid pairs and Kx Type of hands.
Do you think the betsizing is good/bad here?

Both hands I leave myself in stupid spots where I can never fold to a check/raise btw. That concerns me slightly, but not really cause its both spots where I dont expect to get check raised much.

Mainly, im concerned about maxing value.

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Arirang   Canada. Feb 08 2010 15:41. Posts 1673

Hand 1
You can bet little more, 60-65% he'll call with any ace.. he may even call 70-80%.
Try to at least bet like 50-60% minimum.. your bet on river is pretty weak.

On that note, if raised, fold. Since AT just made two pair and AJ is still there. Gutshot got made as well.
The hand you'll be getting max value from is AQ.. and you'd get good value from other aces this guy cannot let go of.


Hand 2
I think your line is fine and fold upon raise.


hiems   United States. Feb 08 2010 15:58. Posts 2979

Hm solid response.

Hand 1: Id I agree 50-60% minimum is a good start. What do you think about maximum?

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Arirang   Canada. Feb 08 2010 16:11. Posts 1673

Near pot. You won't get value by overbetting in this kind of hand with your hand strength.


Zalfor   United States. Feb 08 2010 17:29. Posts 2236

i think bet sizing in hand 1 should be bigger

hand 2 is fine imo


hiems   United States. Feb 08 2010 18:17. Posts 2979

Zalf - Your referring to river? Or Turn and River?

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joLin   United States. Feb 08 2010 19:01. Posts 3818

hand 1 shove river.

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traxamillion   United States. Feb 08 2010 20:20. Posts 10468

bet more hand 1 and its actually aight to check back hand 2 since he runs into an ace a lot or folds to a bet. If he will always call with Kx then sure vbet


Maynard!   United States. Feb 08 2010 21:05. Posts 4453

V. fish I would almost certainly try to value their stack by river.

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joLin   United States. Feb 08 2010 21:07. Posts 3818

i cant understand your small river bet in hand 1. what are you trying to get called by that wont call a shove? (note he has 85bb)

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veryGUd   United States. Feb 08 2010 21:36. Posts 625


  On February 08 2010 20:05 Maynard! wrote:
V. fish I would almost certainly try to value their stack by river.



This, got to be thinking about best way we can leave ourselves a pot size bet on river against bad players


hiems   United States. Feb 08 2010 22:30. Posts 2979

Hmmm yeah I guess hand 1 is pretty damn stupid.

For some reason I dont think I was thinking about the fact that he is a ultra fish according to ptr...when he is exactly as fishy as the guy in hand 2.

And because of this, basically all i saw in that moment was AQ, and didnt know if there were A9 and below that he can have. And the possibility of AJ,AT,KQ froze me.

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seadonkey   Canada. Feb 09 2010 17:56. Posts 75

yea if hand # 1 villan is fish hes showing up with alot more weak aces wich he wont be folding. I think you coulda squeezed some more value on your turn bet then that makes for a bigger bet on the river or a shove.


X EzPzLmnSqz   United States. Feb 09 2010 19:19. Posts 549

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